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Old March 17th, 2010, 04:11 PM
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Genuine CD+G Disks

Just thought I would share my latest experience on purchasing CD+g disk.
I just purchased from an ebay seller a Sunfly World Star vol 36 (This is a Johnny Cash Karaoke disk). These are usually packaged in a cardboard sleeve with all the song details on the reverse. This one turned up in a generic type sunfly sleeve with like an address label stuck to the front with the volume # and singers name stuck on Printed on the sleeve it states "This Is An Authentic Sunfly Production And To The Original Specification" The disk artwork looks like it is printed on an ink-jet printer again on a generic label with a white space at the top where they printed the song titles, definitely not screen printed.

On receiving this disk I phoned Sunfly and spoke to one of the staff to inquire weather this was a genuine Sunfly disk, they confirmed that it was and said that when an older out of stock item is ordered now they just burn one with the original titles on it much like when you order a self compilation disk. I pointed out that I was unhappy with this as you don't get the artwork with it and it looks like anyone could have printed it and in fact I could make a better copy myself
I thought the best way to tell a genuine disk was by the printed method used and the info imprinted on the middle clear part. There seems to be some numbers on the middle clear part but it does not relate to the vol #.

I have since then put my comments to them in writing, I don't know if I will get a reply.

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Old March 17th, 2010, 04:36 PM
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Re: Genuine CD+G Disks

That would be a hard one to prove. Make sure you keep the receipt with it.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 07:30 PM
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Re: Genuine CD+G Disks

Well if the manufacturer sells disks that look like fakes... How can they hope make any legal case against a pirate making copies? Perhaps there is some tell-tale manufacturer signature there that is hard to spot. It would make sense that they wouldn't tell you about it. Or maybe Sunfly just hopes to sell enough to stay in business and is less worried about piracy than manufacturers like say, I don't know, Sound Choice.
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Old March 18th, 2010, 09:45 AM
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Re: Genuine CD+G Disks

The so called "legit" companies have been messing around for years. About 11 or 12 years ago I bought a Pocket Songs disc PSCDG 1297 that contains the top 10 hits done by Dinah Washington, no vocal demo's, just the karaoke tracks.

I have these same songs by her on an L.P.(best blues singer that ever stepped up to a mike) and I swear the arrangments are identical, right down to the last note. Possible not the original, true, but what really cinches it as a pirate job is the lousy attempt of vocal removel they did. Anybody familiar with Dinah knows she has a discinctive voice. There's no doubt who you can hear faintly in the background on all 10 tracks.....interesting
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Old March 18th, 2010, 12:04 PM
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Wow. If that is true I have to wonder why no one went after them. That is outright, provable theft. I went to Pocket Song's web site to read their 'licensing' statement to see who they claim to pay for rights, and found something else entirely. They are selling rights:

You can license any song in our catalogue to make a personal compact disc recording featuring your own voice for the following fees:

1 - 9 songs: $150 per song
10 + songs: $135 per song
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Old March 18th, 2010, 01:09 PM
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None of the producers tell you who they pay for rights to reproduce. The only license they talk about is about their license when we buy their products.
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