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Singers & Hosts Wisdom Post how to be a great karaoke singer or host. |
View Poll Results: If in emergency, would you use your CDG's and cdg player in place of using Hoster? | |||
No, I would not host w/o Hoster and would cancel the show. | 21 | 30.88% | |
I would revert back to using discs for that night. | 47 | 69.12% | |
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Host without Hoster?
Basically, If somehing happened to your computer or software, and if you were down to a choice between lugging all your CDG's in and setting up your old karaoke machine to do the gig, or cancelling the gig,
would you show up without Hoster?
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Not sure if I hit the wrong answer, but yes I would use discs.
Wouldn't be an issue at all for me, all my discs & players are at every show. But even if I was mobile, I would still have my discs & at least 1 player with me simply for back up purpose - no way i'd cancel just because I lost the 'convenience' factor, so I would actually have to do a little more work lifting heavy discs, i'd rather get paid for my job. If someone would actually cancel a show because they would have to use discs for a night, then they have absolutely no business running a show in the first place! I can actually run a faster paced show with discs in reality, but I prefer the convenience of Hoster not to mention the sound quality.
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Which in again, they would have no business running a show in the first place
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run show without hoster????????
There is no absolutely no way you can run a faster pace show using disc v Hoster. Also, i find it much easier to carry a backup laptop w/hoster than lugging a player and all those disc.
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With Hoster I cannot do that. I still can ask for applause & call up next singer when singing stops, but then I have to turn down the current outro & stop it making for dead air - unless I push up the fill/transition music (another step), & quickly highlight next song & start it & wait for the cue up & intro screen before the music starts since you can't set cue points yet. So yes, running players/discs for me is in fact faster than using Hoster, but I am willing to sacrifice the speed for the convenience & sound - which seems to be better than discs for some odd reason. Which is why I had requested the 2nd player for Hoster for more like a dj type system or at the very least the crossfade button that would automatically fade out the current song while starting the next at the click of a button (obviously it would need to be a manual button) - like I can do with discs & if the cue points become a reality, then I believe Hoster will be faster than running discs in the manner described . Quote:
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playing a show without hoster
I simply read your post and questioned the statement you could still run a show at a faster pace, and, your explanation still shows me you can't. I cue the next song while the current song is playing, it takes less than 3 seconds on average to start the next song. I don't believe you can get one singer down and the next singer up that quickly. Perhaps some other KJ can chip in and explain how the disc is faster than you just did. Not trying to be smart here, but the way you are doing it, according to my understanding, just don't seem to get it the way you explained it.
I guess this becomes the question. muzicman144 |
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My singers are trained to get up when I call them or they may miss out their turn - 9 out of 10 times, on occasion I get stragglers, but not for the most part. The second a singer is done singing (words on the screen are over) - I use the rest of that song's outro to praise & get the next singer up. The next singer is usually up & ready BEFORE the outro to the last song is finished - then I fade into the new song, bringing the last song down & bringing the new song up! Another few seconds per song that adds up more time available to another singers time - especially if they are long outros like Comfortably Numb or Freebird. Songs that just end on the last word, well obviously there isn't much difference there, but these types of endings aren't all that common. I don't know how to explain it any better, you would actually have to see it in action because you obviously don't believe me, but I can assure you, I can run a faster paced show with discs - as a matter of fact that was a concern when I decided to go with Hoster to begin with, it would slow me down & it has, not greatly, but noticeably. Been running karaoke since '92 with multiple players & have become quite speedy with the discs.
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hosting pace
Thanks for your input. I would like to hear some comments from others on this subject. Dead time is a killer for any type entertainer, and i understand your explanation. I guess when it gets to the point that it's like herding cattle through the loading chute as quickly as possible, the limelight doesn't get to shine very long on your singers. But then, again, i guess i'm missing something. Success is not based on fastest speed in this industry, but i guess i've been at it too long, too successfully, to understand.
Again, thanks for your explanation, and i do understand what you are doing. muzicman144 |
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The singers still get their recognition & appluase, if the applause happens to more into it, i'm not going to stop it. Most people applause a little & their done. This is why I have been at the same place 7 nights since '94, people like the style & the fact that I get people up quick without drawing out the night with dead air or excessive host chatter. Our weekends are much busier & if everyone wants a chance to sing the most they can - which is what most are out to do - then they know to be speedy.
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With all my backup computers i would never be without.
i allways carry at least one backup with me, and could have another delievered to me within minutes. Bob if i had to go to disc permenently, i dont think i would.
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Maybe the question should be DO you have the discs to do backup provided ALL your computer backup's failed>>>?
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Yes, the question was "If there were no other choice?", If you had to, in other words, even if you had backup computers, would you use your backup discs (ones you prolly owned and used before Hoster) for that one night. After using Hoster and realizing the work involved w/o it, I said a clear No Way.
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I agree, I keep the backup discs in the truck with the player and bring in a backup laptop. I would cancel and find a replacement. This is not my main job, have another, and I would simply call in sick, although I never had in either Hosting or my real job. People around here have gotten so used to my system with Hoster, videos, pictures, quick songfinding, nearly paperless(80% anyway), that I would settle on giving them less anymore.
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I agree with muzic man.
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You shoulda checked NO, I would not because that is what I meant.
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I apologize now, for those who would cancel, that just adds another reason to give karaoke hosts a bad name altogthether.
Sorry, my convenience factor is broken, yes I have another means to run the show, but I choose to cancel instead!
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hosting without hoster
I believe Lonman has lost the real point here. The question is if one "had" to go back to disc. I believe most who use hoster and certainly all who "entertain" realize the importance of having a backup plan when something fails. I, and i believe most hoster users also do, have a backup computer. The cost factor for the backup computer versus having a cd player for backup is not out of line when you factor in the advantages. Many hoster users don't even own a karaoke player anymore as there is no need. I don't have one anymore and don't intend on buying one. Lonman's only choice as he states it is to go back to a disc player and using the disc. Many Hoster users do not have the need or have the equipment to use disc the "ole fashioned way" nor have they ever done it that way.
I don't need anyone to apologize for me if i "choose" not to do a show because I only want to produce the best quality product that the customer is used to and entitled to. Nascar cancels when it rains and certainly survives to run another day and true fans understand and return. A decision to cancel a show for a legitimate reason certainly doesn't give all Kj's a "bad name". As for the reference to "maybe" not owning the disc as a reason to cancel, you queston another's integrity without basis. I would suggest to you that maybe you are out of line to make such a general statement that questions the hoster user's professional judgement call on whether to cancel or not. Muzicman144 |
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would you show up without Hoster? And Bryant even reiterated THAT was what he meant. Not talking about backup computers or anything else. Quote:
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OK, I would use my disc if i had to.
we have about 12,000 cdgs. i would have to carry about 2,400 cdgs and 1,200 cds for music, to do the same show i do now. also about the last 600 cdgs for my main system are not in sleeves and are not in order to use. so it would be a task to say the least, to try to do a show with disc. and i also know I WILL NEVER HAVE TO. I thank God & MTU for that.
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