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Old January 12th, 2003, 03:02 PM
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Would you believe I found two C_dilla files in my registry and deleted? Bet it's common and, like the article says, transparant.

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Old January 12th, 2003, 03:10 PM
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Just checked my registry and it's CLEAN for C-DILLA.
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Old January 12th, 2003, 03:45 PM
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c_dilla

This is a realy wired one.
Done exactly what you said and got rid of c_dilla from my registry.
checked registry all gone.
went back to add and remove programs and ther it was.
Titled c_dilla licenced management system.
so tried to uninstall it and it came up with the following message.
Removing this software may prevent other products fromworking correctly.
Went to search for this file it was in a protected folder, checked in the box which allows you to see hidden folders and files and there it was an exe file for uninstalling. so what do you reckon should i delete this program in add and remove program or not.
the actual name of the unistall file is cdunin16.
See if you can get your teeth around this beauty.
I know this is not realy the forum for this type of thing but this may be a problem with copy protection.
thanks alot for your time.
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Old January 12th, 2003, 04:01 PM
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Brian........

1. I would expect it would be still there under Add/Remove

2. Go back to the Hidden holder and see if there is any "Sharded" file folder in it.

3. Where is the Hidden Folder and what is it's name?

AND LET ME KNOW
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Old January 12th, 2003, 04:07 PM
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c_dilla

The files are located as follows they are in
c:\dilla\setup
the files are
cdains16.dll -77kb
cdains32.dll -90kb
cdunin -78kb
I hope this is usefall
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Old January 12th, 2003, 04:16 PM
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Brian.........

1. If the Hidden Folder does not contain any "Shared" Folder the go to Control/Alt/Delete and get rid of everything running but Explorer and Systray.

2. Then go to Add/Remove and try to remove.

3. The "dll" files you mentioned are not associated with any other program that I know of, i.e such as the cdains16.dll,
cdains32.dll, cdunin.

4. If the Add/Remove doesn't work.

5. I believe it's safe to JUST DELETE THE HIDDEN FOLDER.

6. Re-Boot the computer, check your registery again for c-dilla.

7. If the Hidden has an Un-Install.exe try that also.

8. If there is no shared folder, there's no link to anyother program.
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Old January 12th, 2003, 04:23 PM
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Brian..........

It SETUP WAS RUN FOR C-DILLA YOU WILL GET THE FOLLOWING ENTRIES IN YOUR REGISTRY. SEE LINK BELOW:

http://www.privacyandspying.com/c_di...ll_report.html
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Old January 12th, 2003, 04:34 PM
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Brian....... Just found this.....

Do you use TurboTax by Quicken? Then you need to be aware that it has possibly installed a spyware trojan on your computer. We've had a thread running at the forums for a week or two about a third party application called C Dilla that is installed by TurboTax.

According to an article at privacyandspying.com, C Dilla is a copy protection program that installs without disclosure with certain programs such as game demos. It disables your CD burner when copy protected software is on your computer, monitors what copy protected software you are using and how, disables "certain" internet downloads, and possibly sends user data off to a remote server without permission.

Quicken makes no mention of this software anywhere on their web site (that I could find), although possibly there is some disclosure in the click-through EULA. Considering that it is illegal in many places to provide customer financial data to third parties without the customer's consent, if you use TurboTax to do other people's taxes for a living, this third party software might actually be causing you to break the law. I'm sure the application doesn't send financial data back to .... wherever ... but since it isn't discussed anywhere on the Quicken web site, how can we be sure?

C Dilla is now a target of Spybot S&D. At first the developer was worried that removing it might actually break one of these ridiculous copyright protection laws that Hollywood keeps buying in Washington D.C. I pointed out at Spybot's support forums that there is nothing illegal about a third party uninstallation program. Or that if there were, Microsoft was breaking the law itself with its add/remove control panel applet. I'd like to think that my argument helped persuade him to include this trojan as a removal target and I hope all the other spyware removal companies also add detection for it. Just be aware that removing C Dilla will most likely disable whatever installed it, as is the case with many programs that install spyware. Make sure your documents are backed up in a standard format and is accessible by whatever you replace it with.
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Old January 12th, 2003, 04:45 PM
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c_dilla

Thanks for the info.
No I don't have Quicken for tax purposes but I do ues Quicken for my home accounts.
I also use the net for doing my Tax returns using the Inland Revenue site.
When I used the uninstall program it listed a progrm called A_Z maps which I had on my pc this is a london street finder.Asked if I wanted to delete this I said yes as I don't often use It anyway.
Now there is no trace of c_dilla on my system.
I hope thats the end of the matter.
Thanks again for all your help.
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Old January 12th, 2003, 05:01 PM
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BRIAN..........

I MUST THANK YOU FOR CALLING THIS MATTER OF "C-DILLA" TO OUR ATTENTION.

AS THE ABOVE ARTICLE SAYS, WHATEVER PROGRAM C-DILLA CAME WITH AND WILL PROBABLE BE DISABLED, ONCE YOU UN-INSTALL C-DILLA.

I JUST GOT TURBO TAX FOR HOME AND BUSINESS AND HAVE COPIED IT TO MY HARD DRIVE.......I'M GOING TO DISSECT IT, UNZIPPED EVERY CAB FILE TO SEE IF IT HAS THE C-DILLA IN IT.
IF I FIND IT I CAN PROBABLY DELETE IT "BEFORE I INSTALL TURBO TAX"

BUT, NOW EVERYONE SHOULD BE AWARE AND SEARCH THEIR C DRIVE FOR ANY MENTION OF C-DILLA OR DILLA.

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Old January 12th, 2003, 05:17 PM
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C_dilla

May I thank you also for all the time you have spent with me on these topics.
THANKS AGAIN
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Old January 13th, 2003, 09:11 AM
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Hi guys,
Thought just occurred to me that reference was made in the article we read regarding dilla that it used cookies to communicate
with. Seems like the prudent thing to do would be to delete cookies also, which I do on a regular basis anyway. Have to input user name and password when re-entering these forums, and a couple of pet sites, but that's a small price to pay to keep the spies out.

George
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Old January 13th, 2003, 10:32 AM
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RE:.........C-DILLA

I did a little more digging, believe that C-Dilla is a copy protection scheme. Originally an English Company acquired by MacroVision.
The C-Dilla program software program is on certain Software, such as Video Games, TurboTax 2002, AutoDesk, etc.

I believe the copy protection scheme is "SafeDisc" and AutoLok"

Apparently once you install a program, like TurboTax 2002, that this C-Dilla software is launched and you have to go through some Internet Code Registration procedure.
You can't put the program on another computer and copies and backup copies can't be made from the Original Software Disc.

TURBO TAX 2002 COMMENT LINK:
http://fish.netexpress.net/view/B000...oftware/229540

http://fish.netexpress.net/view/B00006UWRO

SAFE DISC HOW IT WORKS:
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Arti...rview&index=10

Some additional Links on C-Dilla:

http://www.c-dilla.com/
http://www.macrovision.com/
http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware...audiolok.shtml
http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware...sociates.shtml

HOW MACROVISION'S C-DILLA CHANGES YOUR REGISTRY
http://www.privacyandspying.com/c_di...ll_report.html

AGREEMENT BETWEEN C-DILLA AND MACROVISION
http://contracts.corporate.findlaw.c...998.02.19.html

PDF DOCUMENT ON C-DILLA FROM "THE SPIDER WEB NETWORK
http://www.tswn.com/modules/news/pri...php?storyid=45

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Old January 13th, 2003, 02:42 PM
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C_dilla

Hello again im back read your reply, yes very interesting stuff,
but whay can we do about this to be able to back up our own purchased software.
I took your advise and searched for anything that started with dilla and look what I found.

C:\windows
cdilla05.dll, cdilla10, cdilla13.dll, cdilla16, cdilla32.dll, cdilla40.dll, cdill64

c:\widows\Prefelch
cdilla64.exe-of-45051A

Shoul I delete these also

Notice there is no underscore after the d.
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Old January 13th, 2003, 09:21 PM
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Brian..........

Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you. I couldn't Log on and Post a message, have been working with Mr. Cox...got it working now.

Probably wouldn't hurt to go ahead and get rid of those files.
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Old January 16th, 2003, 04:25 AM
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COPY PROTECTION ON HARD DRIVES.

Hi Kjzone
I know this is not the forum but have you heard of a company putting copy protection on all new disc drives from this year.
I read about this on the following web site.
Have a look and see if this is the case.
The web address is http://212.100.234.54/content/2/15620.html
If this is the case we better bye new hard drives now before this happens.
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Old January 16th, 2003, 08:14 AM
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....And don't forget the "if it don't be broke, don't fix it" theory and download firmware updates just to do it!!

George
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Old January 17th, 2003, 10:37 AM
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Copy Protection on hard drives

Brian,
Look at the date...It was written on Dec 20, 2000.

Unless all manufacturers went along with it, drives that do not have the protection would put the others out of business. If Plextor advertised that others had this and they did not, whose would you buy????
Whose software would they be protecting and why would they want to unless they were going to get a bunch of money for it...from each software company for each program....

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