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Old February 23rd, 2005, 11:32 AM
BigMike BigMike is offline
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I can't stand it

I got to talk about it, This DJ I know got himself set up with a computer program. I know him so I get to pop up there and play with it. I'm not sure what program it is but it is different. The name, that I can't remember, sounded like it was a guy and girls name. Anyway, There are two things about this KJ that bother me.

One, the program was sold to him with 30,000 songs. I love going there because he has almost any song I want to try but it bugs me that this 30,000 song list is being sold to every KJ in my area. There are at least four KJs with the same list. I believe there are more now but I am not sure.

Second, There is still the same amount of down time now as there was before. Before, he would call up the singer, go looking for the CD, call the singer again, singer would come up, then he would put the CD in and start the song. Now, he is not on the stage when the singer is finished, some times he lets the singer come up because they are on his rotation and then they both talk together and figure out what song they are going to sing, he types it in, and the singer sings. I hate dead air, dead air is a bunch of singers waiting to sing. you match that with Dance music with no dancers and it's time to find a new Bar with a different KJ. This guy is a friend of mine but making suggestions to him is taken as an insult so I don't do it.

There is a reason these programs have a list that holds the singes and what they are singing. These programs should eliminate a ton of down time. Yet it seems to give, at least this KJ, more time to mingle.

Just a GRRRRRR session. Hi everyone <wave> I'm finally done entering the CDs and have been enjoying the free time. Soon I will get back into KJing again. Been a while, kept up the music, but not the gigs. I still need to update my music but I'm not that far behind the times. I do have some Maroon 5 lol
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 11:51 AM
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Re: I can't stand it

The 30,000 songs he purchased are ALL illegal. Turn him in to the US Marshall. PERIOD!

He is NOT YOUR friend! You may consider him a friend, but it is not mutual with what he has done in your territory. He is ILLEGAL as are the others and YOU will soon be facing a dwindling market to pay for your services. Act now to stem this illegal tide in your territory.

That's what we are all fighting for; every song purchased and fully within the law. There are a lot of things going on in the industry that will probably bring down the law on bootleggers. Be forewarned in advance.

A major producer is now going after the bar/venue owners as they have assets to loose. He is making it clear that if they hire a KJ with illegal songs, they will pay. We'll see what comes from that, but it is underway in one state now.

Protect your territory from illegal bootleggers. The guy doesn't sound like anyone in this Forum would go to his show a second time. He is NOT an asset to the industry, as you have pointed out.

Sorry for the negatives, but it really crisps me when I hear of the bootlegging going on now.

As to the software he is using, we expect them to be off the market within 6 months.
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 12:14 PM
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Considering, since before Christmas, I have been uploading CDs with every spare free time I had, to load 500+ CDs into a program I bought, Researched, and learned how to use, (yes in that order.) Having someone pay $2k and get the computer, the library, and no training. It does bother me. What bothers me even more is, I have not been a KJ for a while now. I told him I was getting this program and entering my music into the computer and since I told him I was doing it and now, he bought the computer and library and has been using it. Like he wanted to be better then me even though I have not been in the bussiness or a rival to him in a long time.

I did talk to him about being illegal and he told me that the 30,000 songs were part his (his collection) part others (their collection) and if they get raided they would just get all of the CDs together and give to the guy who is being investigated. The only way to end this is to have them all be investigated at the same time. It is legal to combine several people's libraries to make one big library and they all can use that library as long as they do not have gigs at the same time.... we all know they do and that's where it is illegal.
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 12:52 PM
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Re: I can't stand it

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It is legal to combine several people's libraries to make one big library and they all can use that library as long as they do not have gigs at the same time....
Just where did you get that from....him?

George
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 12:54 PM
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*cough*e-bay*cough*

Think I may have seen this one. Saw a system on e-bay for sale that included the aformentioned player (pretty sure I know exactly which one).

The ad was for the system, a player, a library of KJ songs and a library of DJ selections. Said he had been using it for shows, and you *cough*had to delete the songs if you didn't own the disks*cough*. (They put that in because it's an e-bay rule that if you don't you can't sell it through e-bay.)

Funny part was, saw like 6 of the systems all from the same seller with the same description. Musta been a hell of a show to need 6 systems and all ...
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 01:47 PM
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Re: I can't stand it

It is legal to copy your library of music as a back up and use the back up and save the original. So if you have four people do that and share their library and none of them use it at the same time how would that differ from the same four people sharing the CDs? If they do not have copies of their music but four people share their CDs there would be no way for them to play at the same time only one of them have the CDs. Now we are talking about using the backup that is on everyone's computer. if any of them have a gig at the same time then they are illegal... that's all I am saying.


Back to the point they are all having gigs at the same time and that's illegal as hell.
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 02:01 PM
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It is legal to copy your library of music as a back up and use the back up and save the original. So if you have four people do that and share their library and none of them use it at the same time how would that differ from the same four people sharing the CDs?
Sharing is illegal. File swapping is illegal.

I think you may be confusing that with not being able to use an original and a back up at two different shows, which is also illegal.

If you using a "shared" cd, then you can not produce the original cd that you OWN.

YOU must own the original of the back up cd you are using. YOU must own it, not the guy across the street, and if you can't produce it, everything you own related to KJ/DJ'ing including your home computers can be confiscated.

George

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