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Singers & Hosts Wisdom Post how to be a great karaoke singer or host. |
View Poll Results: If in emergency, would you use your CDG's and cdg player in place of using Hoster? | |||
No, I would not host w/o Hoster and would cancel the show. | 21 | 30.88% | |
I would revert back to using discs for that night. | 47 | 69.12% | |
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll |
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Are they picking on you again, Lonnie?
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1. they must have there disc as a back-up to Hoster. (Which implies that you don't trust Hoster and it's not reliable. ) 2. running a karaoke show with Hoster isn't any better than running disc. (I'm sorry but after four years of using Hoster up to six nights a week, I just don't see this one. ) I have found that both of these point are not true. Hoster is an awsome program and is in the process of revolutionizing Karaoke Hosting as we know it. I asked about the size of your rig to make the point evident to the community that when a Karaoke Host is hauling around as much gear as you do. it's no problem to throw your discs in the van, not that there is anything wrong with it. What is easy for you, (since I work alone without a trailer, anything over 50lbs. is not easy to move) is not feasable for me. Folks who choose to run lightweight rigs and choose not to bring their discs to every show shouldn't be made to feel like they are doing something wrong. Lonnie, "Just because something works doesn't mean it's the best way to do it or that everybody has to do it that way." Please use these boards to promote the use of MTU products and uderstand that "there is more than one way to skin a cat." I don't believe this is happening with mallace intent but a little respect for MTU should be employed when posting on their board, in my opinion I'm not picking on you brother, I just want the folks to buy Hoster with the uderstanding that it is a very reliable program and that no disc means NO DISCS! Thanks for the helping me make these points clear. Jim
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I ran multiple players, always had the next song cued up & in some cases cued up to the starting point of the music eliminating all the silence in the beginning of most songs, on a song with a long outro I could get the next singer up & fade out the outro while starting the next song immediately. Right now Hoster does not have this capability, I am keeping my fingers crossed that it will. I ran discs for 14 years 7 nights a week, been on computer for less than a year now. And other than that limitiation, Hoster is a great program! Quote:
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But no discs for backup is a personal choice! I know & have talked with others on other forums that also bring their discs for backup, so i'm not the only one!
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Host without Hoster
My final outlook on this subject. One, thank god for the innovators like MTU who create such progressive creations that really work. The people who sell outdated sound equipment like you use, thank you for remaining a customer.
As for the speed of disc users Vs Hoster, this is an old topic, and my memory seems to remind me you lost that one too. Perhaps the air is getting to thin in the state of Washington. muzicman |
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Please notice I said "can lead folks to believe that". Jim
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Again, this is discs vs comp. All you disc haters must have a reason (other than 'weight' which seems to be the biggest complaint) that you tend to believe discs cannot be run as efficiently as a computer based show with someone who knows how to run discs properly - it can - that is and always HAS been what I am getting at. Would I go back to running discs exclusively, if the need be yes I would the minute I would have to, but otherwise I am running the computer with discs as a back up - my choice!
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Lonnie,
I may have stepped into this conversation at the wrong time. Your statement: "that you (YOU being me) tend to believe discs cannot be run as efficiently as a computer based show with someone who knows how to run discs properly" shows me that you assuming since I agree with musicman on one point that I agree with everythiong he posts. My statements have nothing to do with a disc show being run "as efficiently" as a computer show. Discless Karaoke is better than Disc Karaoke when you use Hoster, for more reasons that how efficent the Karaoke Host is and I don't have to argue with anybody about it. The proof is in the program. Hoster can help make a "so so" Karaoke host become almost as good a a seasoned host like yourself. You and musicman seem to be having a pissing match and it's getting all over the rest of us. It's obvious to me because my point was drowned. Maybe this issue deserves it's own poll. I'm out of this conversation, I hope somebody, somewhere gains some knowledge from these posts. Adios! Jim
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For what it's worth I'll weigh in here.
I've visited Lonnies show once and although he was gone that night I found the show well run and the sound was awsome. Lonnie has been a staple on many of the karaoke forums for many years and because of his many years running sound for bands and karaoke and because he keeps abreast of new equipment offering new ways to do old things, his advice is much sought after on many of the forums, much of which I've incorporated into my show over the years. I used disks for 4 years before switching to Hoster and I can confirm that using disks CAN be faster although you do sacrifice convenience for it. Ironicly I spend a lot more non-show time on show related activities now than I did before the computer. When I used disks I simply bought disks, typed the song title/artists into the songbook software, added the disks to the binders and I was done. Now I have to import them, watch a minute or two of each track to assure a good import. I end up spending time each week re-importing stuff that had issues as well as fixing misspellings in the database. Because I want to make better use of my rootid's I've taken to importing using Microstudio and then renaming each track to reflect the track number I want to give it and then import into Hoster. I've also started trimming long outros out of songs so my timer better reflects how much time I can be away from the computer, and then reimport those into Hoster. And then there's defraging, Microsoft updates, driver updates, moving new and edited KMA's to the backup computers, etc etc. Convenience during a show?: Yes Flexability during a show?: Yes Time saving?: Not necesarily. IMHO Sam
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Maybe his assessmant wasn't so far off after all, considering the turn this thread took.
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I have been to several disc run shows. They work fine. I think hoster is just easier for keeping up with the rotation and less work for the KJ. I wish I knew as much about sound as Lonman. My shows are pretty good, but hey we could all sound better eh.
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Hosst without Hoster
[quote=Lonman;70471]I apologize, no you weren't the one that said it could not be done. But that is the entire stupid argument, just because maybe he has never seen it done properly, I don't know. But to tell someone that can run a quality & efficient show with discs that he is wrong & the computer is much faster no matter what (which is his entire implication) is complete crap!
I did not say you were wrong, but, said i do believe the computer is faster. Done it both ways and know HOW to do it. I don't care how you do it!!! Wouldn't matter, he would just bring it over there the first time I stated anything about discs. Again, you give yourself to much credit. No need to follow anyone anywhere. Never intended on a pissing contest, I apologize to everyone else on this forum. just don't appreciate anyone telling me what i use is crap, while boasting about how great everything they do, is best, right, and the only way. I've got quite a few more years in the business than lonnie, worked with some big names. They think i know what i'm doing with sound and with what i use. I wouldn't knock what anyone uses, there may be reasons that i know nothing about and don't consider it respectable to tell one what they use is crap. I have heard great sound come out of the worst stuff with a good sound man behind them. Best advice i ever got was use what you know how to use or learn quickly on something new. Again, my apology to anyone else i may have offended and for getting off the subject. I will try not to get my hackles up about these little comments and try to stick to the subject. muzicman |
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Host without hoster?
I have been reading all the remarks in this forum mainly to help me decide if I wanted to use hoster.
We have been using discs for 8 years, and I feel we run a very good show. We have a 5 disc player and there is very little waiting for someone to sing. We make sure everyone sounds good, even if their not a great singer, we want them to sound as good as they can... My main thought on using hoster for one main reason is the hassel of discs. Having one go bad on you, not being able to get it replaced, which is turn mess's up your whole book... I am still trying to read up and try to figure some things out. I have the demo hoster, and am ready at any point as soon as I am convinced it is best to buy it. I don't under stand how you keep a rotation on the hoster, I see the names in rotation, what do you do go in and change each song every time around?? Convince me guys that this is the best way to go!!!! Thanks!!! Karaoke Fever |
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Host Without Hoster
Buy The Hoster Program. This will be the best move you ever made. Everything about your show will be so much better. You rotation will always be right and straight. I don't care what anyone says about the speed of the show or what is better, the common belief here with everyone who is honest about it is, MTU provides the best program, has the best support of anything out there. Do Not Buy anything else.
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I found a couple of songs that had loaded with the graphics messed up. In hoster, all I had to do was delete those two songs from my hard drive and reimport them into hoster and they are perfect now. No wear and tear on your original cd-gs. Keeping up with the rotation is very simple. I am sure that everyone has there own way. Here is what I do. I keep a small white board next to me numbered 1-50. As singers come in I add their names next to a number. As I add songs I type the Number and first name in the singers block. Example 1 Steve
With Hoster I can drag and drop the songs to the correct location on the list and I can copy and paste the names as a singer adds another song. As long as I can still remember how to count I can easily keep my rotation straight. |
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Thanks for any help you have given me. I have purchased the Hoster program, and have been working with it. I am not sure I will live long enough to get all these disc's loaded into this lap top...but I'll keep plugging away..
Thanks, and hopefully if I ever get things ready to roll, I'll be able to get some help from this forum.. |
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