Hoster screen flashing on & off with 3.313

[bryant]

I don't think he was yelling. I think the bold letters were to clarify the original "staying on task" items of the
post's contents. Sometimes posts will go around "Robin Hood's" barn and back again and get a little offtrack and become cloudy in trying to gather info for a very specific
problem or bug. I think he was getting back to being very specific, the bold letters actually helped me out and summed everything up quite nicely.

[TKaraoke]

gd123, I sympathize with your dilema, I originally started this with the Flashing Screen thing, I thought 3.314 stopped it, but after using the playing a few disc all the way thru found out it is worse with 3.314 than 3.313, plus I cannot use my cd drive in the laptop that I could use in 3.313. So after doing updates, trying different discs and drives, I give up. I have a competitors program that I have not used because I like Hoster, but enough is enough it works fine. All my other stuff works fine so I don't think we should have to revamp our equipment for 1 program to work, that's unfortunate, but it seems like the last updates things keep gettimg worse. When the only program I have to open DXDIAG and leave open is Hoster to make it work, and still can't use the cd drive that worked before, what does that tell me! I really like Hoster but enough, all you MTU customers that try to help are wonderful, but it's not your job to fix it, and thank you all with your suggestions. Just my humble opinion.(Just a note: When Hoster came out, I had it one year and couldn't get it to work, had to buy an upgrade to make it work, then, thought all was well? Guess I was wrong. Too bad it's a great working program and I love it better than the others, when it works!)
TKaraoke

[TKaraoke]

On my laptop it appears that on versions 313,314,& 315 that the DirectDraw in DXDIAG becomes disabled. Just happened to go in again last night, noticed it, and changed to ENABLE, all redraw problems disappeared. In 3.312, it stays ENABLED. Maybe this will help some problems it did on mine. Still can't use laptop drive even though it says it should, audio but no video, but I'll live with that I guess.
TKaraoke

[kilith]

Originally Posted by TKaraoke

On my laptop it appears that on versions 313,314,& 315 that the DirectDraw in DXDIAG becomes disabled. Just happened to go in again last night, noticed it, and changed to ENABLE, all redraw problems disappeared. In 3.312, it stays ENABLED. Maybe this will help some problems it did on mine. Still can't use laptop drive even though it says it should, audio but no video, but I'll live with that I guess.
TKaraoke

Now I see what all of you have been complaining about. I disabled my directdraw in DXDIAG and Hoster went nuts. The way the words scrolled on the screen... It was not smooth like normal it just kind of showed up and not I guess scroll in.. got flashing and strange looking things going on.

Good work TK cause now I was finally able to see everything everyone was complaining about.

So if you do not know how to find DXDIAG here is a simple way to find it.

Click on Start -> Move mouse over search -> Click on for files or folders -> type in the search box DXDIAG -> Click Search Now.

This will dispaly anything that has DXDIAG in the name title. Make sure to check all files that say DXDIAG only (open them and then check them) and make sure under the display tab (if you have display 1 and display 2 tabs check both) that DirectDraw is enabled.

This is the only thing when I disabled directdraw that let me see what you all were talking about. Once I enabled it again it all went away.

[kilith]

Originally Posted by bryant

I don't think he was yelling. I think the bold letters were to clarify the original "staying on task" items of the
post's contents. Sometimes posts will go around "Robin Hood's" barn and back again and get a little offtrack and become cloudy in trying to gather info for a very specific
problem or bug. I think he was getting back to being very specific, the bold letters actually helped me out and summed everything up quite nicely.

He might not have but I was stressing on how I ran my video and that maybe that is the reason I was one of the only people not having this problem. Now thanks to TK I seen what was going on and yes it was a very simple fix of making sure directdraw was enabled on your systems. DirectDraw would be something no one would think would get disabled. We are all used to it being enabled. I also play madden on my computer so I would of noticed that DirectDraw was not working.... Most of you only use your laptop/desktop for your karaoke gigs I use mine for everything, internet, setting up gigs for weddings, making my books, making flyers, and playing Madden to keep sane lol.

[bryant]

I wonder if Admin or Support or any others may comment on this fix.
Admin, I know you guys are busy with MS right now.
But, when you get to it, it would be nice to know if this is the Final fix?
Thanx.

[TKaraoke]

I hope the Direct Draw thing helps some others, gets real frustrating when things don't work right, and I'm NOT a computer guru by far, so this was really only by accident, sure glad accidents happen!
TKaraoke

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by TKaraoke

I hope the Direct Draw thing helps some others, gets real frustrating when things don't work right, and I'm NOT a computer guru by far, so this was really only by accident, sure glad accidents happen!
TKaraoke

At least this kind. Good find!!

[admin]

Originally Posted by TKaraoke

On my laptop it appears that on versions 313,314,& 315 that the DirectDraw in DXDIAG becomes disabled. Just happened to go in again last night, noticed it, and changed to ENABLE, all redraw problems disappeared. In 3.312, it stays ENABLED. Maybe this will help some problems it did on mine. Still can't use laptop drive even though it says it should, audio but no video, but I'll live with that I guess.
TKaraoke

Interesting!

TKaraoke, do you have any other programs running on the same computer; particularly games?

I talked with our Sr. Programmer and he has no idea how to change DXDIAG. It is VERY DOUBTFUL that Hoster being installed is doing this. Try it and prove me wrong if you find different.

I disabled DXDIAG Direct Draw on my system, then CLOSED (very important) the DXDIAG dialog, ran Hoster 3.315 and screen redraw was perfect.

I enabled it again and closed the dialog, ran Hoster again and its still perfect.

To jog your memory, my system was farkled some time back after doing a change that I believe Ddouglass pointed out, and it never reversed back working right. Our Sr. Prog. refused to do this change to his so he never saw the slowness, except on my laptop. But now... I'm running perfectly.

We'll do some digging, but so far, this doesn't seem to be directly caused by Hoster... not to pass the buck, but that is our current engineering analysis.

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by kilith

Now I see what all of you have been complaining about. I disabled my directdraw in DXDIAG and Hoster went nuts. The way the words scrolled on the screen... It was not smooth like normal it just kind of showed up and not I guess scroll in.. got flashing and strange looking things going on.

Good work TK cause now I was finally able to see everything everyone was complaining about.

So if you do not know how to find DXDIAG here is a simple way to find it.

Click on Start -> Move mouse over search -> Click on for files or folders -> type in the search box DXDIAG -> Click Search Now.

This will dispaly anything that has DXDIAG in the name title. Make sure to check all files that say DXDIAG only (open them and then check them) and make sure under the display tab (if you have display 1 and display 2 tabs check both) that DirectDraw is enabled.

This is the only thing when I disabled directdraw that let me see what you all were talking about. Once I enabled it again it all went away.

Or just click on start, then run & type in DXDIAG & hit enter.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by admin

I disabled DXDIAG Direct Draw on my system, then CLOSED (very important) the DXDIAG dialog, ran Hoster 3.315 and screen redraw was perfect.

I enabled it again and closed the dialog, ran Hoster again and its still perfect.

Admin, I believe to make that change actually take effect you would need to restart rather than just close the DXDiag.

Originally Posted by admin

To jog your memory, my system was farkled some time back after doing a change that I believe Ddouglass pointed out, and it never reversed back working right. Our Sr. Prog. refused to do this change to his so he never saw the slowness, except on my laptop. But now... I'm running perfectly.

I really do feel bad about that as it did work for some. When did your system start running perfect?

[TKaraoke]

Admin--------No games on my laptops, only thing different was the new versions of Hoster, again 3.312 worked, and works when you restore back to it. 313, 314, 315 all cause redraw problem. I'm not a computer whiz, but the Direct Draw was disabled in the newer versions, not in 3.312? I changed it, closed DXIAG opened Hoster and have played maybe 25-30 songs, no problems except cd drive will only import audio not video, even though it says it's good.

ddouglas: I'm not going to fix it til it's broke though! I'm leaving well enough alone!
TKaraoke

[gd123]

v3.315 - upgrade - no re-boot

In DXDIAG, under the VIDEO Tab, I have 3 DirectX listings:

DirectDraw Acceleration
Direct3D Acceleration
AGP Texture Acceleration

All these are ENABLED and do not change upon installing any version of Hoster.

I found that disabling Direct3D Acceleration was the ONLY thing that made a difference in Hoster.

Also, re-enabling Direct3D Acceleration caused Hoster to return to its problem state.

[gd123]

Upon re-booting, Hoster still showing problems.

So, my conclusion is that opening DXDIAG in and of itself, whether staying open or closing, causes something to stay loaded that Hoster reacts postive to.

[bobcox- with the Lord]

Does anyone know what (overide dxdiag refresh rate does) before i push the button. Bob

[kilith]

Originally Posted by admin

Interesting!

TKaraoke, do you have any other programs running on the same computer; particularly games?

I talked with our Sr. Programmer and he has no idea how to change DXDIAG. It is VERY DOUBTFUL that Hoster being installed is doing this. Try it and prove me wrong if you find different.

I disabled DXDIAG Direct Draw on my system, then CLOSED (very important) the DXDIAG dialog, ran Hoster 3.315 and screen redraw was perfect.

I enabled it again and closed the dialog, ran Hoster again and its still perfect.

To jog your memory, my system was farkled some time back after doing a change that I believe Ddouglass pointed out, and it never reversed back working right. Our Sr. Prog. refused to do this change to his so he never saw the slowness, except on my laptop. But now... I'm running perfectly.

We'll do some digging, but so far, this doesn't seem to be directly caused by Hoster... not to pass the buck, but that is our current engineering analysis.

I had to change settings and apply in DXDIAG and then close down hoster and open hoster to see the problem. Then I switched back and had to close down hoster for it to revert back to normal working state. I never closed DXDIAG at anytime of me messing around with hoster and directdraw but I seen the flashing and very strange looking draw of the words.

When I have directdraw on the words draw on the screen like they do if you use them on a CDG player. With direct draw OFF they just show up all at once. There is no smoothness in the draw of the graphics. but like I said I had to close hoster and reopen hoster to see the different affects. Yesterday when I did it I was getting flashing today I didnt see it but I only was checking if I had to close DXDIAG or hoster to see the problems.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by gd123

Upon re-booting, Hoster still showing problems.

So, my conclusion is that opening DXDIAG in and of itself, whether staying open or closing, causes something to stay loaded that Hoster reacts postive to.

Are you saying that you only need to open the box, leave it open, and NOT uncheck or check anything, right.