Sound "hiccup" (hesitation for a split second)

[Junester]

Hi there...I am new to this, but I was reading about the hiccup problem. I just started using the hoster 4.8 program last week. First night, no problem. Second night while importing singers own tracks my show did the hiccup thing during people singing. It only happened during the import of the song.
I am going to try changing the quality setting as someone suggested, but at the risk of sounding dumb, I don't know how to stop my cd drive from starting up when I put a cd in it. I have seached everywhere I thought it would be and can't find where to do it at. I was thinking that could be part of the problem too.
I have plenty of ram and memeory. Also do you guys leave your anti-virus off the computer you use for your shows?

Thanks

[Karen K]

Ironically, my hiccuping doesn't happen during the import process; it will happen later on in the evening; the more tracks I have imported, the more prevalent the problem. Just enough to confuse the singer - maybe one beat. Last night I didn't do any importing and had NO hicccups.

I don't use my system for anything but karaoke and don't use it to do instant downloads of songs during a show...I buy CDGs and upload them. I don't have anti-virus running.

[Roy Dennis]

This is in the manual

Disable CDRom Auto Play Option



Disable this option to prevent programs from automatically reading the a CDG or CDROM disc you load and running or playing it.

1. Click the Start button
2. Click the Run option
3. Type in "regedit" without the double quotes
4. Locate "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE" and click it
5. Locate "System" and click it
6. Locate "CurrentControlSet" and click it
7. Locate "Services" and click it
8. Locate Cdrom and click it
9. Right click Auto Run and select "Modify"
10. Set the "Value Data"to "0" and click the OK button
11. Restart your computer

Roy.

[Junester]

I should have mentioned I'm on a Vista program so I don't know if it's different with that program...

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Junester

I should have mentioned I'm on a Vista program so I don't know if it's different with that program...

Is this a laptop system?
And just how much RAM do you have?

[Junester]

Yes it is a laptop and it has 4GB

[dspins]

Originally Posted by Karen K

I can't really come to another conclusion about this: This situation happens ONLY when I have imported someone else's CDG and it happens anytime AFTER the song is played. If I don't upload anyone else's CDG, it DOES NOT HAPPEN. I can go weeks without skipping ever if I don't load someone else's music. As soon as I load someone's music, it will skip. Sometimes only one time, but I can pretty well count on it.

Karen, I agree with you 100%. I can echo your problem everytime as well. It only happens right after loading a CD from a customer during a show. The software will either skip, the graphics will get out of sync with the song, or the music will even play off tempo. It ONLY happens right after or while loading a disc. This never used to be an issue for me, but as of the last couple updates on hoster, I am seeing this problem more and more. I tried maxing out the ram in my system with some of the best and fastest ram I could use and saw no improvement in this problem. So simply being a memory issue I find questionable as a reason. I find it more plausable that hoster has become a CPU hog now and since it is too big, people with older XP single core sytems are going to have problems with hoster unless they post a separate version for XP and vista. Don't hold your breath on that happening though.

Like those people above pointed out, closing the software down and re-opening it will correct this problem. But, it causes a host of other problems when doing this during a show. The most note worthy is that any songs from discs that you were brought in from a customer are now gone from your list. If you forget about this, a singer will think you dropped them and get upset. You now have to reload them and go through this all over again. Or drop them in a separate karaoke player on the side which is what I find best until hoster fixes this problem. (it used to work fine a year ago so I don't know what they changed, probably a vista fix to the software screwing up XP users)

[Karen K]

Okay, thanks for that. Not losing my mind. Two shows no guest CDGs, no skips. Last night one guest CDG (tried to convince her to just go with my version to no avail) and it skipped. BTW, I have TONS of RAM on this system.

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by Karen K

Okay, thanks for that. Not losing my mind. Two shows no guest CDGs, no skips. Last night one guest CDG (tried to convince her to just go with my version to no avail) and it skipped. BTW, I have TONS of RAM on this system.

If it's the same version/manu, i'd just use your version anyway. Different manu, you can't get away with as easy.

[Karen K]

Couldn't get away with it - she's a veteran, sings the same songs every time she comes in - she knows what I have and what I don't, unfortunately.

[marklwood]

Originally Posted by Karen K

Couldn't get away with it - she's a veteran, sings the same songs every time she comes in - she knows what I have and what I don't, unfortunately.

Maybe it's time to hit ebay for the CDGs she uses. I do that for my regulars. She might even sell you hers if you ask real nice

[Karen K]

For how many songs she sings, it isn't worth investing in ancient CDGs. I have probably 50% of what she sings. She is a singer in a band occasionally, and she and her SO run a sound biz so she understood when I told her I'd rather NOT load her discs if I don't have to, that it seemed to cause some sort of flicker in the system. She was actually fine with it. She's a reasonable woman, thank goodness.

[laddie]

Originally Posted by Karen K

I can't really come to another conclusion about this: This situation happens ONLY when I have imported someone else's CDG and it happens anytime AFTER the song is played. If I don't upload anyone else's CDG, it DOES NOT HAPPEN. I can go weeks without skipping ever if I don't load someone else's music. As soon as I load someone's music, it will skip. Sometimes only one time, but I can pretty well count on it.

I have had this problem for a long time, but could not determine what was causing it till I read your post. I found, like you, that it only happens after I load a song from someones disc. It doesn't happen right away, sometimes up to an hour or more before it occurs. For the past 6 weeks it has not happened ( 4 shows a week). This week end I loaded a song from someone else's disk on both Friday and Saturday nights. Both nights I got the momentary pause afterwords.

Sunday I set up my show machine at home, created a playlist and played about 10 songs, then loaded a song from a CDG disc, then continued loading from the playlist. Approximately 30 mins. later i got the momentary pause. After the pause I exited Hoster and restarted. I did the same thing again except I loaded more songs from the playlist before loading from the cd. Same results except it waited almost 45 mins before the pause. Did all the above one more time this time I got the pause at about 40 min. I don't know why it does this, but I do know that I can duplicate it.

[Karen K]

Then I'd say we're not the only ones. I'll reiterate that there is a definite connection between loading a guest's CDG and the skipping. Food for thought for the techies.

[ddouglass]

Does the hiccup occur when you get to the point in the playlist where you are playing the import or does it occur on a KMA file sometime after it has played?

[laddie]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Does the hiccup occur when you get to the point in the playlist where you are playing the import or does it occur on a KMA file sometime after it has played?

It occurs after the imported file has played, while a kma file is playing.

[Karen K]

I have not been able to pin down exactly, if there is an exact time when it occurs. It can hiccup at any point after I upload a CDG....Seldom right away, more often than not maybe 3-4 songs away or longer, on a .kma file - not on the uploaded file.

[mindonstrike]

What if you import it but never play it?
Also try importing and then deleting from the playlist.

Just trying to narrow down whether it's the kma's existance that is the problem or playing it triggers something.

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by Junester

Hi there...I am new to this, but I was reading about the hiccup problem. I just started using the hoster 4.8 program last week. First night, no problem. Second night while importing singers own tracks my show did the hiccup thing during people singing. It only happened during the import of the song.

This is a diferent problem from Karen K.

I have similiar problems as you and always have had with 4.xx, which is why I'm still using 3.4. I get 5-10 singer disk tracks per night.
I've never been able to nail down the problem except that 4.xx uses a lot more computer power than 3.xx and my old computers can't quite handle it.

[Bonniej]

I have the same problem with 4.08 I have narrowed mine down, mine will hicup while I am importing the the disc while another singer is singing and will put everything out of sync from that point on unless I restart Hoster.
I am running Vista on laptop with 3 gig of ram. I solved this problem by going back to 4.06.