monitor scrammbled but TV works

[Theorbit]

everything was working fine, I could view my Dell computer monitor and see the CDG music on the TV. But I decided to try something different and now I can't see the Dell Monitor, it's as if the picture is overlayed on itself and off the screen 50%. Here's what I did. I was curious if I could start my computer without the computer monitor connected, so I turned on the computer with only the TV connected. When I did this the computer went through a long boot up (like it was changing settings). All seemed normal, but I didn't like the resolution I was getting on just the TV. (I was trying to see if Windows looked as good on the TV as it did on the monitor). So I turned off the computer and put my connections back to normal. When I turned on the computer I got this scrambled version on my monitor. I checked the forum and tried some of the things I read. I tried going to settings and setting the display for dual monitors but there is only 1 monitor to click on, not 2 like there used to be. So I did a ''restore to a previous date', and that made my monitor work correctly, but my TV won't work at all. And worse, I loose some of my files that I had saved. So I restored back to the other way and await your advise. I bought my computer from MTU preinstalled with Hoster. It has the two 80 gig hard drives in a Shuttle X case. (Administrator note: my system ID: is N4102101GA3TH0 if this helps you find what is in my system)
Any suggestions on how I can change my settings back to where they were?

[mindonstrike]

I had a similiar problem one time where when I booted up, my monitor was on the tv and the singer/tv screen was on my monitor. The only way I could fix it was cmpletely shut down, disconnect the tv and reboot - forcing windows to recognize my monitor as a monitor. Then reboot again with the tv connected (I may have had to resetup my display properties-I can't remember)
I've had a couple of similiar problems and I found that "restart"ing would not fix, but a complete shut down and reboot would.
You might give this a try, hope it helps.
I don't know why you would have lost files because of this though.

Sam

[gduns - with the Lord]

I had the same problem, Nvidea video. I did as mondonstrike, and it took care of it.

[Theorbit]

I tried as you suggested, I had the TV connected to the S-Video and I completely disconnected it and I turned off the computer, waited 10 minutes, then turned it back on. I still have the same problem, I then tried using the the 2nd monitor connection and there is no picture at all there. You said you didn't know why I would lose files, but the only time I would lose files would be if I restored to a date prior to me screwing up the computer. And I wouldn't have minded losing those files if it would have fixed my computer but it didn't comletelt fix it. So it wasn't worth the loss. Thanks for your advice. Any other suggestions?

[mindonstrike]

You turned it back on without the tv connected, correct? (and bottom monitor connection on shuttle)

As long as you had the monitor only connected it should have forced it to recognize it.

when you go to display properties what kind of monitor does it say you have?

Sam

[Theorbit]

I checked my display properties and it shows 'Default Monitor on NVIDEA'. I tried a different monitor but it didn't change anything, so I connected the S-video and 2 monitors to see if it would recognize a new connection as plug and play but it didn't change anything. It's very difficult to see the display because it keeps going black about every 4 seconds, then when it comes back the screen is off to the left midway and transposed upon itself from the right side, almost as if someone cut it in half and laid it over. You know, if I wanted to do this I couldn't ever figure it out. I appreciate the advice, keep it coming.
Rusty

[Beavis]

some times buying the most expensive video card is not the way to go.

buy the cheap built by ATI card with a RCA connection out and you will have no problems.

i bought the built by ATI with s video out and had nothing but problems with it. changed to the rca connection card and am trouble free ever since.

i bought mine in 2002.

[Theorbit]

After hours of playing with the settings I finally got the monitor to work and the taskbar and desktop all on the same screen. Now I just need to get the Hoster software to show up on the TV. Right now the TV only shows the Hoster background, what's the trick to getting software to show up on the TV?

[George]

What do you mean the Hoster background shows up on the T.V., but not the Hoster software?

If you are properly set up in extended desktop mode, and your video card supports dual display, the only background you should be seeing on the T.V. when Hoster is not running is your p.c. desktop, minus any shortcuts, toolbars, etc.

If you are seeing everything on the tv, the same as your p.c., you are in clone mode and not in extended desktop, which it should be.

To go into extended desktop, have the tv turned on and hooked up, right click anywhere on a blank spot on your monitor, click properties, click settings.

You should now see two monitors. Click on #2, and then click on the box next to "Extend My Windows Desktop Onto This Monitor", and click apply.

Hope this gets it.

George

[Theorbit]

I checked the setting to make sure that the desktop is extended to both screens and it is. I have the desktop background but when I open the Hoster software it only opens on one of the monitors.

How do I get the software on both monitors? Any Ideas?

[George]

If by "software" you mean the singer's display, when it opens on the pc, click and drag it to the right to get it on the tv.

You can then size it and double click on it to lock it in place, just like you did when it was working fine.

George

[MTUSUPPORT]

When you begin to Play a song in Hoster, does it go to the full screen window on your computer monitor? Or does it not do anything? If it goes full screen, this should occur on the Tv that is showing your Hoster Background (Desktop Image).

[Theorbit]

When I play a song it goes to the singers screen but it's on the primary monitor. I have to double click it to get it over to the singers monitor. I can't get it to stay there like it used to. After every song I have to double cilck it again. Otherwise, through all of George's help, I have the system back to the way it was. But there is one more thing I am curious. I have never been able to get 2 monitors to work. The top port on the computer is giving me all of the double vision that I described in the beginning of the question. Is that normal? or should I be able to get 2 monitors and a conventional TV connected to S-video to all work?

Rusty

[George]

Rusty,

After you get the singer's screen over on the t.v., try double clicking on it again and see if that will lock it in place so it will stay there from one song to another.

George

[Theorbit]

George, If I double click again it sends it back to the primary monitor.

[George]

O.K., try not double clicking it to send it over to the t.v.
Instead click and drag it to the right, off the pc monitor onto the tv.
Then grab the corners and size it to fit, and then double click it.
This normally will lock it in place.

No matter what, I'd suggest creating a restore point now that things are at least reasonably right. Then if it should take another dump, you have a reference point to restore to.

George