video adapter to video splitter

[billyo]

i'm not sure if someone has done this yet, i just bought 2 19" samsung high resolution lcd wide screen monitors, ( 1600 x..)and both has vga's on 'em, and i also bought a pc to monitor adapter ( not tv ), not knowing that the adapter doesn't support a high resolution monitors, i then ordered another adapter from Provantage that support a high resolution..this only has one vga out, i am thinking of buying another monitor so i can have 3 to use, if i buy a video splitter that has multiple vga out, and connect the adapter to it..will i be able to have dual display..? just wondering if this will work.. i thought about buying an external graphics card case. that just came out, i'm just wondering if its worth buying it, the case alone cost about $300 , not including the graphics card..

[Lonman]

Whatever is on the splitter will be the same.

[billyo]

so it's gonna be a cloned,instead of a dual display.. even though the pc to monitor adapter is connected to the splitter?

[KenKelley]

My setup is VGA out of the computer (laptop) to a VGA Splitter I purchased from Radio Shack which has 4 VGA outputs (I paid about $100 a year ago).

From the VGA Splitter I run VGA cables to 3 monitors (1 Singers LCD Monitor 20" like you would use for a desk top then 2 to my LCD flat panel displays (they are high res but it doesn't matter when I use PC VGA source).

Then I treat it like a dual display, desk top on my laptop and extend the desktop to the other monitor/flat panel displays and put the singers display there.

Total cost I paid last year for splitter and 3 cables (1 25ft and 2 50ft), about $240 (VGA cables are expensive). They are bound to be more expensive now.

Hope this helps.

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by billyo

so it's gonna be a cloned,instead of a dual display.. even though the pc to monitor adapter is connected to the splitter?

If that output is capable to be setup for dual display then the splitter will only receive the extended desktop video (typical setting anyway). And whatever 2 monitors are connected to the splitter will display the same display - like being able to show the words to both the singer & the audience simultaneously while you maintain the KJ screen on the laptop.

[billyo]

Originally Posted by KenKelley

My setup is VGA out of the computer (laptop) to a VGA Splitter I purchased from Radio Shack which has 4 VGA outputs (I paid about $100 a year ago).

From the VGA Splitter I run VGA cables to 3 monitors (1 Singers LCD Monitor 20" like you would use for a desk top then 2 to my LCD flat panel displays (they are high res but it doesn't matter when I use PC VGA source).

Then I treat it like a dual display, desk top on my laptop and extend the desktop to the other monitor/flat panel displays and put the singers display there.

Total cost I paid last year for splitter and 3 cables (1 25ft and 2 50ft), about $240 (VGA cables are expensive). They are bound to be more expensive now.

Hope this helps.

i'm not sure if that is right, i believed and also from what i read that video splitters only mirrored the same image as the main monitor, are you sure you do't have an adapter ? what you're saying might work on a laptop , since laptops has its own screen, and a seperate vga out, i have a desktop with 1 vga out.( 1 of the desktops i rebuilt/upgraded ).as of now i can have the dual display, but i cant play a music video on the extended screen, i am getting an out of sync problem, i don't have a problem playing music video on the main monitor it plays fine.. , reading from the manufacturers manual, i might not have the right video adapter, since it only supports lower resolution.. what i was asking was once i connect the video adapter ( that supports high res. ) that i ordered to the video splitter will i be able to have an extended display ?, btw both video adapter and splitter will be usb powered..if what youre saying work i will try using the splitter on my laptops..adapter and splitter cost me $70.00

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by billyo

i'm not sure if that is right, i believed and also from what i read that video splitters only mirrored the same image as the main monitor, are you sure you do't have an adapter ? what you're saying might work on a laptop , since laptops has its own screen, and a seperate vga out, i have a desktop with 1 vga out.( 1 of the desktops i rebuilt/upgraded ).as of now i can have the dual display, but i cant play a music video on the extended screen, i am getting an out of sync problem, i don't have a problem playing music video on the main monitor it plays fine.. , reading from the manufacturers manual, i might not have the right video adapter, since it only supports lower resolution.. what i was asking was once i connect the video adapter ( that supports high res. ) that i ordered to the video splitter will i be able to have an extended display ?, btw both video adapter and splitter will be usb powered..if what youre saying work i will try using the splitter on my laptops..adapter and splitter cost me $70.00

Not if you only have one output from the video card. The card has to support extended display which means there has to be two output ports on the card.

[KenKelley]

Originally Posted by billyo

i'm not sure if that is right, i believed and also from what i read that video splitters only mirrored the same image as the main monitor, are you sure you do't have an adapter ? what you're saying might work on a laptop , since laptops has its own screen, and a seperate vga out, i have a desktop with 1 vga out.( 1 of the desktops i rebuilt/upgraded ).as of now i can have the dual display, but i cant play a music video on the extended screen, i am getting an out of sync problem, i don't have a problem playing music video on the main monitor it plays fine.. , reading from the manufacturers manual, i might not have the right video adapter, since it only supports lower resolution.. what i was asking was once i connect the video adapter ( that supports high res. ) that i ordered to the video splitter will i be able to have an extended display ?, btw both video adapter and splitter will be usb powered..if what youre saying work i will try using the splitter on my laptops..adapter and splitter cost me $70.00

Yes I use a laptop.

I didn't notice that you were using a desktop with only 1 VGA output.

From my past experience of trial and error will not allow for an extended desktop even with a "Y" cable/adaptor.

If I were using a desktop I would find a video card that has a Digital output that supports dual monitor extended desk top (either with 2 digital outputs or 1 output with an adaptor or "Y" cable attached (ATI has made these)) or has 2 VGA outputs.

One other option provided the mother board supports it would be to install another video card like what you are using already. I have seen this work for multi display configurations.

Hope this helps!

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by KenKelley

I didn't notice that you were using a desktop with only 1 VGA output.

That wasn't stated in the OP.
A VGA with one output will only display what is coming off of that output, no dual or extended capability.
Best thing to do on a PC is just buy a cheap internal card, they are not hard to install at all and most are self installing. I got a 1GB memory ATI Radeon card from Tigerdirect for $50.

[billyo]

Originally Posted by Lonman

That wasn't stated in the OP.
A VGA with one output will only display what is coming off of that output, no dual or extended capability.
Best thing to do on a PC is just buy a cheap internal card, they are not hard to install at all and most are self installing. I got a 1GB memory ATI Radeon card from Tigerdirect for $50.

i beg the differ Lonman, my (3) old Dell Optiplex sx280 desktops is capable of dual display with the help of a converter TRITTON SEE2 TRIUV200 only supports 1024x..resolution..my`Samsung monitors has ( main )1366 x 768, 32 bits 60hz .resolution,and the ext. has 1360x768 32 bit ,tried lowering the resolution on them but the screen looks funky.. a friend who has the same desktop and using it to do shows also is able to have dual display also with the help of a converter he bought from monoprice..like i said the only problem i have was that when playing music videos on ext. monitor it goes out of sync, but it plays fine on main w/o any problem.. i could replace the graphic cards if i could, the problem was it's integrated, heck, i already replaced the motherboards, upgraded the cpu's from Celeron D 2.8 to Intel p4 3.0 ( tried 3.6 didnt work ).upgraded RAM to Corsair 4gb and upgraded the hhd's to Samsung 500g 7200 rpm..on all of them, the money i spent rebuilding these desktops is probably enough to get me a new powerful laptop/pc..( it's my way of making myself busy ).i am now waiting on another converter from Provantage that supposedly support a higher resolution monitors..hope it works..i could show you a screen shot, i just don't know how to do it

[Lonman]

Interesting, never heard of a single VGA output being able to produce two separate signals with any converter. Do you have a link to the converter by chance?

[billyo]

you can go to (removed link as it takes you to a jewelry website) , type in SEE2 triuv150, in search, or go to Provantage.com and type in AUV200F, or www.Aluratek.com you can find all kinds of converters for a single vga/dvi or hdmi i could show you a screen shot of my dual display..just don't know how

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by billyo

i beg the differ Lonman, my (3) old Dell Optiplex sx280 desktops is capable of dual display with the help of a converter TRITTON SEE2 TRIUV200 only supports 1024x..resolution..my`Samsung monitors has ( main )1366 x 768, 32 bits 60hz .resolution,and the ext. has 1360x768 32 bit ,tried lowering the resolution on them but the screen looks funky.. a friend who has the same desktop and using it to do shows also is able to have dual display also with the help of a converter he bought from monoprice..like i said the only problem i have was that when playing music videos on ext. monitor it goes out of sync, but it plays fine on main w/o any problem.. i could replace the graphic cards if i could, the problem was it's integrated, heck, i already replaced the motherboards, upgraded the cpu's from Celeron D 2.8 to Intel p4 3.0 ( tried 3.6 didnt work ).upgraded RAM to Corsair 4gb and upgraded the hhd's to Samsung 500g 7200 rpm..on all of them, the money i spent rebuilding these desktops is probably enough to get me a new powerful laptop/pc..( it's my way of making myself busy ).i am now waiting on another converter from Provantage that supposedly support a higher resolution monitors..hope it works..i could show you a screen shot, i just don't know how to do it

I removed one of your links because it was incorrect and took you to a jewelry collection instead. The item you are showing it taking video out through a USB port and running it through a converter (which is actually a video card in a box, thus an external USB video card) and outputting it to a VGA.
As long as you have a slot for the video card and I believe those do, then you can install a separate internal card and turn off the integrated card. I have done that for all Dell desktops I own.

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by billyo

you can go to (removed link as it takes you to a jewelry website) , type in SEE2 triuv150, in search, or go to Provantage.com and type in AUV200F, or www.Aluratek.com you can find all kinds of converters for a single vga/dvi or hdmi i could show you a screen shot of my dual display..just don't know how

Like said, a single VGA output will only display 1 signal. This is not a converter to change that single output, this is a separate USB external graphics card. Which can act as a it's own card or an addition to the built in.
But with a PC, i'd just opt for a new video card that already has a dual display capability, just as cheap, easier & no external devices hogging up USB power/ports.

[billyo]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

I removed one of your links because it was incorrect and took you to a jewelry collection instead. The item you are showing it taking video out through a USB port and running it through a converter (which is actually a video card in a box, thus an external USB video card) and outputting it to a VGA.
As long as you have a slot for the video card and I believe those do, then you can install a separate internal card and turn off the integrated card. I have done that for all Dell desktops I own.

Doug, i wish they had a slot for a graphic cards, but these optiplex sx280 don't have one....i'm sorry if i put in the wrong link..it's Trittonusa.com..i had 4 of these..i did rebuilt 3 of them..and i have another one to do..if you can..i need your advice on this one..it's a small form factor case..and i would be or i am trying to get a motherboard that will fit on this..if you can look at the epecs on this and maybe suggest a good motherboard that won't break the bank.

[billyo]

Originally Posted by Lonman

Like said, a single VGA output will only display 1 signal. This is not a converter to change that single output, this is a separate USB external graphics card. Which can act as a it's own card or an addition to the built in.
But with a PC, i'd just opt for a new video card that already has a dual display capability, just as cheap, easier & no external devices hogging up USB power/ports.

i'm with you on that, like i said if i could install a graphic card i would..these pc's don't have slots for it...these pc's has 7 usb port and i don't have anything plugged in except the mouse and an ext.500g hhd.( on this one i'm using ) so nothing is really using a lot of power, and i'm gonna be using this particular pc just for music videos and music editing.

[Lonman]

Yeah looking at the actual model from Dell I see what you are talking about. The USB solution looks good

[billyo]

hopefully this new one from Provantage will work

[nfountai]

Just a thought, last week I bought a "AVlink 1x2 Distribution Amplifier 300 Mhz VGA Quad -xAG MSV12M" with USB & VGA connection ($60) local. USB Powers it and the VGA sends the video. It worked great on 2 extended monitors last week. I use Hoster 4.3 on a Toshiba dual 2 4 gig ram & 500 m HD. But I really wanted to have the video capable on the laptop too but can't seem to get that to work with a extended monitor. It seems it's one or the other. Tried all the configuration in Windows 7 but none give the laptop and extended video at the same time. Except, the small control window in the top left corner of Hoster on the laptop. When I'm out singing, I either have to have the extended monitor in view or try to read the small control window, boy my eye site isn't that good all the time.
Does anyone have an answer? Or is there something in the works for the next generation?

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by nfountai

Tried all the configuration in Windows 7 but none give the laptop and extended video at the same time. Except, the small control window in the top left corner of Hoster on the laptop. When I'm out singing, I either have to have the extended monitor in view or try to read the small control window, boy my eye site isn't that good all the time.
Does anyone have an answer? Or is there something in the works for the next generation?

First off, is the laptop capable of dual display ? if in doubt list it's model # so we can tell also what graphics card it uses Intel, Ati, Nvidea.

Try this I'm assuming here this is the windows 7 laptop: Plug your adapter in and connect and power up the extended monitor, now start your computer when it's ready, do you not see anything on the extended monitor ?

If not right click on blank area of your desk top, from the fly out window click on "Screen Resolution" in this view you should see display 1 & 2 next to one another, if this is the case where it says multiple displays click the drop down arrow and select "Extend these Displays" then apply and OK.

If you are not seeing monitor 1 & 2 click detect and see if it finds it.

Let us know how you get on.