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[Beavis]

I thought you were the one that posted in another thread talking about how great your promise raid system was? did it fail [/b][/quote]

i did not say it was on my karaoke computer !!mywhole point is i dont want to sit in my restaurant and load all my up comming cd-g's !!! i have a back up of my .KMA's.

i have just built a new computer for hoster and loaded my backup .kma's and everything works perfect !!


point again:::::: I dont want to load my disc's in my restaurant !!! im LAZY !!

[sevekj]

Originally posted by gduns
mgrowolski ,
You are absolutely right, for $500.00 they probably will grant a 2 license agreement.

Call Microsoft and tell the you think you should have a 2 license agreement on xp, or autocad, or microstation, Pcdj, pckj.........

They love to laugh at people trying to get something for nothing.

If you were a carpenter....... would you built 2 houses for someone that only lives in one at a time. a summer house and a winter house.

I am not mtu or speaking for Mtu but I work with programming everyday. Most people think of software as a plastic Disk and as serial number. and Yes after it is produced that is what it is unless someone it continually trying to improve it and add the new features someone wants added.

Programmers arent cheap, and Not being in the business you can't even Imagine the expense that goes into a program like this. If you noticed this program used to sell for $450.00....... they reduced the price dramatically after they recapped their costs (can you see microsoft doing that).

Do you really expect a free copy of a product, a company has cut the price in half, get real

Well I just bought the one touch Maxtor drive (probably a $175.00 mistake) and I am going to backup the song files and mtu data base to go with the files.
I did not expect to get this kind of criticism about the liscensing thing. It just seems logical to me to have automatic ability to have two for a professional hoster. MTU has crashed all but 2 days for the first week and a half every show, right in the middle of a song everytime except once when it crashed after the end of the last song in the play list when I had to force it. It got hung up so I exited the program and regrouped in about 45 seconds. I am getting good at recovering. I know I do not want to ever reload all my music ever again, so I am doing this backup just for that, plus I would like to review some of my files at home so I can reload some of the discs which are playing very badly in hoster in hopes that they will play better, some have bad lyrics plus there are numerous data base problems I want to fix before deciding to print hoster style books. There are a lot of reasons to make a program like this to be usable in two systems, I would just like it to be thought about and maybe a satisfactory solution can come out of this thread. Because also I want to print the first batch at home, I will need my hoster to operate where my printer is, I am pretty sure most kj's don't have their printer at their show.
I understand your comments and they have been well taken, thanks.

Seve

[Beavis]

i bought 2 copys of hoster !!


seve,
you need a computer that only has windows xp pro loaded on it and Hoster !! you wont have any crashes. use the window media player to play mp3's!


you wont have to reload your database if you have an external or extra internal hard drive. just drag and drop the .kma folder onto the new hard drive and keep it updated.

[admin]

Originally posted by sevekj
I did not expect to get this kind of criticism about the liscensing thing. It just seems logical to me to have automatic ability to have two for a professional hoster.

MTU has crashed all but 2 days for the first week and a half every show, right in the middle of a song everytime except once when it crashed after the end of the last song in the play list when I had to force it. It got hung up so I exited the program and regrouped in about 45 seconds. I am getting good at recovering.

There are a lot of reasons to make a program like this to be usable in two systems, I would just like it to be thought about and maybe a satisfactory solution can come out of this thread. Because also I want to print the first batch at home, I will need my hoster to operate where my printer is, I am pretty sure most kj's don't have their printer at their show.
I understand your comments and they have been well taken, thanks. Seve

Seve, we are considering how to allow two copies of Hoster with the same Registration Code to run on two different computers. We are very much aware of the need. Today is a decision day, but I can say I expect to have some method of running on two systems for a limited period... considering 15 days to help overcome a failure of your show computer.

As to your system crashing, please remember how much help you received from all of us in this Community. Whenever you build a computer without expert knowledge, you run the risk of having a "flaky" system. Given that others are not mentioning crashes like you are, I believe the problem lies more in your computer and Windows installation rather than Hoster. Please keep this in mind before criticizing Hoster for crashing. If you have crash problems, please start a new Thread and discuss what is causing it, what yo are doing just before the crash, what happens, what error messages appear, etc. The more facts you can give us the more we can help you solve the problem.

[gduns - with the Lord]

Because also I want to print the first batch at home, I will need my hoster to operate where my printer is, I am pretty sure most kj's don't have their printer at their show.

You can do this now at home without hoster, run the print songbook command. then put the artist.rtf, and titles.rtf on a floppy. they print from word not hoster.

hope this helps.

[sevekj]

Originally posted by admin
Seve, we are considering how to allow two copies of Hoster with the same Registration Code to run on two different computers. We are very much aware of the need. Today is a decision day, but I can say I expect to have some method of running on two systems for a limited period... considering 15 days to help overcome a failure of your show computer.

As to your system crashing, please remember how much help you received from all of us in this Community. Whenever you build a computer without expert knowledge, you run the risk of having a "flaky" system. Given that others are not mentioning crashes like you are, I believe the problem lies more in your computer and Windows installation rather than Hoster. Please keep this in mind before criticizing Hoster for crashing. If you have crash problems, please start a new Thread and discuss what is causing it, what yo are doing just before the crash, what happens, what error messages appear, etc. The more facts you can give us the more we can help you solve the problem.

Hi,
I am sorry about sounding like I am sounding, after reading some of the replies I am surprised at how bad my threads were sounding, believe me, they aren't meant to sound the way they do. Things can be read differently and have totally different meanings. Anyway, thanks to all who have helped and when I thread a new one, don't think I am just ranting and raving, I am probably just letting my fingers move and I get short on time and don't bother to proof read and so it gets sent with the wrong meaning. I think I did well as far as putting my system together, and loading XP and all, but I am pretty sure it is as you say that there is something wrong in XP causing hoster to shut down. I don't have anything else ever running except the sound card program. I have not been able to determine what causes the shutdown except in one occasion when it was playing the last song in the play list, reason was, someone changed their song at the last second, so I tried my skills at getting the new one on, well I added the new one and it appeared at the bottom of the play list which was already built, instead of moving it to the top I just played it from the position that it got entered, and I planned to mix in some fill music from my other player after that singer finished, when the song ended, hoster just stopped and became unfunctional and the hour glass cursor was on and it just remained on, I tried to restore hoster in several ways but no luck so I just shutdown and started all over again. All of the other times it just would stop arbitrarily with out any outside interference. I hope by March I will have an internet connection at that computer so I can install updates, maybe that is the problem. I did install updates the day I installed XP.
One more symptom, that might be a clue to what is wrong.
It takes a long time to initially boot up this computer, like it is looking for another boot source or something, the reason I say this is because I did not install a 3.5 floppy, don't really need one, I have a cd burner, is there a setting I should change or look for that would allow the boot up to not look for drive A. Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree but my hunch is I am on to something.
Thanks for any advice,

Seve

[Beavis]

the setting for the A drive would be in the bios, when you start the computer up hit the delete key. make sure you know what your doing. all bios are not the same so if you need help make sure you specify what type of bios you have.

just because you have nothing running on the computer does not mean nothings running. if you installed alot of programs on the computer or surfed the net, some of those programs dont go away. plus you might have alot of spyware on your computer. it could be choking your computer to death ! (ad-aware might help)

i would transfer all your .kma files to another hard drive and reformat your computer and reinstall xp. only install hoster. dont forget to get all updates from windows.....and theres alot to get. hope you have DSL or Cable !!

[gduns - with the Lord]

Also,
Background programs, that you don't even know are running interfere. two to mention are roxio cd creator, and nero cd burning software. When I took them off I lost a lot of my problems.

Check and see how many programs you have running in the system tray. this could be a clue. Also any program that schedules, or a calendar program. programs that look for autoupdates.

Good Luck!

[Beavis]

i could never completely remove roxio from one of my computers without reformatting!!


go into the (run) msconfig and you will see it is still loaded(roxio) in the startup!

[sevekj]

I will be checking into your solutions.
I went to the net only to get the updates for XP and Hoster install registration. I will be looking into the roxio thing, and I will get a computer buddy to check into the bios thing with me.
Thanks for the replies.

Seve

[George]

On some platforms there's a program in the Roxio Easy CD Creator 5 called "Take Two" that can create problems.

One solution is to uninstall the entire thing, then do a manual install, skipping "Take Two".

Another is to go to their website and get the free version 6 upgrade. It will automatically delete "Take Two", as it has been dropped from the program. That's the route I took.

Just thought I'd pass that on.

George

[Debinski]

What happend to the USB Mini Network Module approach to securing a single running copy?

I've been DJ'ing with a computer for two years. Because of that rare occasion when a computer won't boot up or an ide cable wiggles off from bouncing around the back of the van or a "driver not found" error or what ever else that can go wrong, and does, (you all know how "windows" can be) I have two identical rackmount computers (a black one and a beige one)and bring them both to my jobs (I leave one in the van...Just in case). I keep the data drives and partitions syncronized.

My feeling is what good are mirrored drives if they're both screwed up from a bad installation or a driver update gone bad or whatever? You now have two screwed up drives instead of one. To each his own I guess.

(The customers don't know how much they appreciate this.)

Anyway, I rely so heavily on working by computer these days, Its worth it to me to have a "whole computer" backup rather than just a drive.

Back to the point....

While contemplating on purchasing Hoster, part of my decision process was based on my being able to take the USB module
($42 respectfully) from one machine to the other. I thought it was a great idea.

Now...frankly I'm a little disconcerted with the loss of this feature.

(Coincidently I got another USB thing ($42) for the "Karaoke Suite 4" so I can move from the super duper living room computer to the not so super at all bedroom computer when the kids kick me off.)

I'm sure they have their reasons for "changing their mind". But I feel a little like I got the rug pulled out from under me.

Anybody want to buy a couple of USB things?

ADMIN NOTE: You can now (mid February 2004) install Hoster on 2 computers for SHOW and BACKUP. You can also install Karaoke Home Producer on 2 computers for use.

[sevekj]

I was a great host with out hoster now I am becoming a greater host and computer geek with hoster.
I am sure someone could use those extra usb thingys to reconfigure the chips to operate more computers simultaneously.
Somebody will make a hoster program cheaper without the fancy protection stuff and everybody will think they can host like an MTUer. There will be a bunch of geeks hosting shows everywhere, It will be the rave!!! AHHHHhhhhhh!!!!!

[Debinski]

Huh?

[admin]

Originally posted by edmcgeemusic
I agree. We really need a two license agreement.

The honest customer is the one who suffers from all this theft protection.

eddie

As of around February 20, 2004, Hoster can be installed on 2 computers so you have a SHOW and BACKUP/HOME system running it. Merry Christmas... slightly late.

[Beavis]

if i put hoster on a back up computer and do all my importing using my back up computer, can i transfer all my .kma's to my show computer and use the config utility will everything work fine in the .kma header ?

[kedmison]

This didn't show up first time, so here it is again...
Here's my problem,...I am wanting to use Hoster's pribting feature to do my song books. I like the ability to use the Artist one time and all the songs underneath the one artist headins. My problem is that the book ID is be printed along side the title. When I first started importing my discs, I statred with the idea that since the songs are no longer on a disc, that the idea of having a "track" number is mute. Therfore song 1 would be 101 and so forth. All songs on next disc would start 201 etc.

This is quick an example of what wants to print out in my song book:

Beatles

Hold your hand201.................20112
No where man170....................1701

How do I remove the numbers immediatley after the song titles?

I've always felt that the DiscID# really should be called Song ID#.

Any help on this?

Thanks,

Kelly

[admin]

Originally posted by BEAVIS
if i put hoster on a back up computer and do all my importing using my back up computer, can i transfer all my .kma's to my show computer and use the config utility will everything work fine in the .kma header ?

What is a config utility? Hoster doesn't have one.

What does transfering files have to do with a .kma header?

The only warning is there is no way to renumber a BOOKID. Since Hoster's Build Songs Database command will ONLY use the first found BOOKID... when there are duplicates, you will loose the second song. DON'T DUPLICATE BOOKIDs!!!

Songs on one hard drive can play on the second hard drive.

[admin]

Originally posted by kedmison
This is quick an example of what wants to print out in my song book:

Beatles

Hold your hand201.................20112
No where man170....................1701

How do I remove the numbers immediatley after the song titles?

I've always felt that the DiscID# really should be called Song ID#.

Any help on this?

Thanks, Kelly

Simple... edit the RTF file in Wordpad or Word before you print them. Currently that is the only way. However, it is not just the DiscID# unless I'm dead wrong. It is the BRAND encoded along with the DiscID#. MANY users have DEMANDED we make it visible what BRAND the song is from, because Singers come in and will ONLY sing XYZ producer's songs.

[kedmison]

Thanks, but that would mean I would have to indivually edit 7,000 songs. Believe I'll pass. Would it be possible to Include a SONG # in the next version for those of us who ONLY need a number for a song?

Kelly