KIAA Membership

[Musicman51]

Sorry for the double post. But i recieved these two links in an email sent to me by a kj buddy of mine, while reading my emails this evening. I looked them up on craigs list and they appear legit. Perhaps we really shouldn't worry so much about the pirates taking our jobs, perhaps we should worry about the KIAA cutting our throat, and their members and inductees scarfing them up suppose? this first link of this dude rubbing it into everyones face, including the KIAA, is just a real jerk, 80 to 90% of all kj's are not legal according to this dude. Now one kj's are pitting themselfs against eachother. Glad i fit into the small 10% who is legal....But apparently the Sleps or their buddies have things so stired up in virginny, that jobs are starting to be at a premium. Apparently according to nightlife publications, clubs carrying karaoke entertainment have dropped dramatically. And as i predicted. These guys are doing more harm then good with this lawsuit stuff. Sure it's great to stop the pirates fine dandy. But at what cost? If you are a good KJ, with a good personality, a sufficent library, a great hoster setup and decent sound gear. No pirate is going to get your job, unless you're a poor host to begin with. But these self imposed castopo tactics by the slep clan, are taking casulties already. And is going to impact kj's, software manu's, clubs, livelihood, sales, and profits..mark my words.

http://richmond.craigslist.org/evs/1567150507.html

and this second one, just seems to be a moron period.

http://richmond.craigslist.org/evs/1569205332.html

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Musicman51

Sorry for the double post. But i received these two links in an email sent to me by a kj buddy of mine, while reading my emails this evening. I looked them up on craigs list and they appear legit. Perhaps we really shouldn't worry so much about the pirates taking our jobs, perhaps we should worry about the KIAA cutting our throat, and their members and inductees scarfing them up suppose? this first link of this dude rubbing it into everyones face, including the KIAA, is just a real jerk, 80 to 90% of all kj's are not legal according to this dude. Now one kj's are pitting themselves against each other. Glad i fit into the small 10% who is legal....But apparently the Sleps or their buddies have things so stired up in virginny, that jobs are starting to be at a premium. Apparently according to nightlife publications, clubs carrying karaoke entertainment have dropped dramatically. And as i predicted. These guys are doing more harm then good with this lawsuit stuff. Sure it's great to stop the pirates fine dandy. But at what cost? If you are a good KJ, with a good personality, a sufficent library, a great Hoster setup and decent sound gear. No pirate is going to get your job, unless you're a poor host to begin with. But these self imposed Gestapo tactics by the slep clan, are taking casulties already. And is going to impact kj's, software manu's, clubs, livelihood, sales, and profits..mark my words.

http://richmond.craigslist.org/evs/1567150507.html

and this second one, just seems to be a moron period.

http://richmond.craigslist.org/evs/1569205332.html

George,
That first one sounds like he is ticked off because he is a member of the KIAA and still got tagged with the lawsuit by SC. What is puzzling is that as a member of KIAA he has already been audited which is part of their membership requirements and that SC is refusing to audit him again wanting him to pay the $6500 settlement and admitting guilt. This is definitely harassment by SC.

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

George,
That first one sounds like he is ticked off because he is a member of the KIAA and still got tagged with the lawsuit by SC. What is puzzling is that as a member of KIAA he has already been audited which is part of their membership requirements and that SC is refusing to audit him again wanting him to pay the $6500 settlement and admitting guilt. This is definitely harassment by SC.

What is to stop someone who has already been audited by KIAA from then useing another hard drive with illegal music for their show?

Roy.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

What is to stop someone who has already been audited by KIAA from then useing another hard drive with illegal music for their show?

Roy.

I don't think they are looking at it that way, but I get the feeling they are attacking anyone using a computer rather than playing directly from the original CDs. In other words they are ignoring the right of us to make one copy of the material. I really think this is going to backfire on them and Sound Choice will be out of business very soon. Every karaoke forum I know of is calling for a boycott of Sound Choice.
I love their claim that they have only sold 750 copies of their latest release (when was that?) and there are 30,000 copies of it in use (do they put a tracker on the cd???). The question is where are they getting this figure?

[Musicman51]

Signs that your Karaoke person is illegal; has more than 20,000 songs, will work for less than the national average of $200 a night on a weekday or $250 for a weekend night.

This guy is getting $200 on a monday or tuesday night at the local bowling alley maybe? And he can tap the local elks lodge for $250 smackeroo's for the boiled cabbage dinner with karaoke to follow? Jimmy, sally...kids help mommy and daddy load the desoto, we're moving to ole verginny...swimming pools..karaoke stars...hurry young'ens

[ddouglass]

The area you are in makes a difference. Since I live in a rural area and play at a VFW (of which I am Life Member and know the finances of the post) then I get $150 on a Friday night and $175 for Saturday night (open later). The guy down the road is working just for tips because the club just opened and they don't have the funds to pay for entertainment and the other two clubs in the area don't have karaoke (too small or to many fights).
Those down the road in the Houston metro area are making more than that because the money is there.

[admin]

We respect Sound Choice as one of the best producers. We hope they are only going after true bootleggers who don't deserve to steal your shows. If you know of a KJ making money who bought a hard drive on EBay for $400 with 35,000+ songs or who bought a hard drive copy from anywhere else (it is illegal) or who swap songs with friends or other KJs, or who downloads CDG songs from MIRC servers, please turn them in to Sound Choice. We need to clean up the industry.

Here are the facts that we are aware of:

1. About six years ago Sound Choice went after a KJ in the Michigan(?) area under copyright law, who refused to settle out of court. The case went to court and the judge threw Sound Choice out, based on their claims. The KJ was cleared.

2. Sound Choice has never taken anyone to court since, to our knowledge and research.

3. They are blackmailing KJs into paying them $6500. If you sign anything as a settlement out of court you are bound under contract law to obey whatever they have you sign. Check with your own lawyer but we recommend that you never sign any contract preventing you from doing anything with karaoke.

4. If you have legally purchased all of the songs you have on your hard drive, to the best of our knowledge and research, YOU ARE LEGAL. Tell Sound Choice you'll see them in court.

5. If you have any illegal songs you did not pay for DELETE THEM NOW. If you are found with illegal songs, pray. That's your only hope.

6. Twice before MTU has paid IPJustice.org to research all current law for your rights as KJs/users of CDG legally purchased songs. Please click here to read their report .
Pay special attention to "format shifting" from one media to another. It happens world-wide every day.