Hoster shuts down after 35-40 seconds.

[sleflar]

I did the reg entries you wanted and ran a reg cleaner. Hoster still only stays up for about 30 seconds. I'll try my laptop next and see if the same thing happens. Wish me luck

[Kobesdad]

ok so I tried the clear registry check box and running my registry cleaner but no go.
Also read a post about a newer release same version but with minor update so I downloaded again and installed with check mark in clear reg values dialogue.
Still shut down after 40 second or so.
Opened again and hit play in auto mode
First full song played I searched and added a song to the list while playing
no problem. Next song played.
Pressed Stop and switched to MAN.
Opened tools menu and got the shut down again.
Not sure how long a list would play in auto but it sure would be a challenge to build a new list if it shuts down every 40 seconds or so.
I have made all changes required for XP
I have done all Custom Updates
Here is the info from Sytem as requested by MTU


OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name ACER-586E497F47
System Manufacturer Acer, inc.
System Model Aspire 3000
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 28 Stepping 0 AuthenticAMD ~1800 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Acer 3A24, 6/16/2005
SMBIOS Version 2.31
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"
User Name ACER-586E497F47\Charles Wilson
Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 738.43 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 2.83 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Not sure why Total Physical Memory is Showing Up as 768 MB as I have 1.2 Gigs Installed??
Could this be the problem with Hoster performing the requirement check and if so why wouldn't it say there specify such an error instead of just a sorry but Hoster must shut down???

Trying to give as much info as I can.

Thanks
Chuck

[Kobesdad]

Opened Hoster and played list in AUTO mode
Keeps playing one song after another.
After 7 songs I am convinced it would just keep playing, if I must I will let the entire 3 HR List play to prove this point.
Once you stop playing Karaoke files Hoster only stays up for a few seconds and shuts down.
While a Karaoke file was playing I set up the new background music feature
and it worked, when I hit stop, but alas it doesn't cast the same spell on Hoster as the Karaoke files do and Hoster does indeed error out with the Background music playing.
The background music continues to play until you select send or don't send to Microsoft.
So Hoster doesn't like to be open if I'm not playing a karaoke file???

I wonder if a beta tester with XP were to download the exact same file on the site now and open Hoster and do nothing if the same thing would happen.
Just a query to help diagnose.

Thanks Again
Chuck

[Kobesdad]

The first thing I noticed was that Hoster did not shut down while the initial internet explorer window with the User Manual Pops up, it runs in the background.
After shutting user manual window and adjusting the window size of Hoster and here's the key un-checking always on because I run a one man show and don't usually have the lyrics window up all the time.
Then Hoster shuts down within 35-40 seconds.
Taking into consideration that a 3 HR playlist just keeps on trucking and I can add songs move songs etc. while it is playing I thought I would try one more thing.
I re-checked always on for show display and voila no more shut down.

Hope this helps some folks and MTU to consider what's going on.

Chuck

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Kobesdad

The first thing I noticed was that Hoster did not shut down while the initial internet explorer window with the User Manual Pops up, it runs in the background.
After shutting user manual window and adjusting the window size of Hoster and here's the key un-checking always on because I run a one man show and don't usually have the lyrics window up all the time.
Then Hoster shuts down within 35-40 seconds.
Taking into consideration that a 3 HR playlist just keeps on trucking and I can add songs move songs etc. while it is playing I thought I would try one more thing.
I re-checked always on for show display and voila no more shut down.

Hope this helps some folks and MTU to consider what's going on.

Chuck

Chuck I know they will look at what you reported and may be able to come up with something. The more details they can get the easier it is to narrow it down.
I haven't had any problems with XP in playing Auto or Man except that I have a known memory error (my computer not the program) that pops up on me on occasion. This usually happens to me in the secondary functions and not during play and never when idle. Hoster is not the only program that does this to me and it is always the same instruction at the same address. I don't think any of the other testers with XP had problems with the exception of a couple who have known machine problems that they have not been able to track down yet.
The second release they did was only to correct a problem for Vista users that involved saving the Remove Silence information in files imported way back in a version 2.xx.
I think in your case your memory is definately too small. There are a lot of the new features that require even more resources than what the previous 4.0x versions have. With the addition of the Fade in/out, Remove Silence and Background Audio. The difference between what you are saying is your memory and what is reported by system information especially concerns me. This is not normal and may indicate something is wrong with it.

[Kobesdad]

I hear you Dale I've been fortunate to run Hoster on this machine for a long while probably five years or so.I now have a workaround for my problem by just keeping the display always on but I still don't think that I should have to.

Thanks for all your hard work both in the testing and in the Forum.
I know I don't post often but I do read posts often something I believe we called sandbagging back in my Ham/CB radio days.

Chuck

[MikeP]

Chuck - I have just discovered I can replicate your problem on my new Vista PC simply by unchecking the Tools/Show Display/Intermission/Always On box.
Good find. Looks like it's one that slipped through the net.
It's good that you have found that checking this box is an effective work-round until it is sorted.
MikeP

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by Kobesdad

I hear you Dale I've been fortunate to run Hoster on this machine for a long while probably five years or so.I now have a workaround for my problem by just keeping the display always on but I still don't think that I should have to...

If all you want to do is hide the snd you can simply check the "Hide" box under singers name display in the intermission screen and choose the same background image you use for your desktop and no one will ever know any diference. This is a 2 step process compared to the one step process of unchecking the "always on" box, but then that was designed for folks who don't have dual display cards.

Sam

[dancagle]

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DAN
System Manufacturer Sony Corporation
System Model VGC-RB30
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1 GenuineIntel ~3000 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. EV91510A.04T.0062.2005.0811.0305, 8/11/2005
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"
User Name DAN\Dan Cagle
Time Zone Central Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.09 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.79 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys


I did load 4.10 on my Toshiba laptop and it seems to be working. It is running xp and has 1.5 MB of Ram.
I realize that the memory may be the problem with my Dell laptop, unfortunately it only will take 1 gig of ram.

[dancagle]

Is it possible to run without the visulizations with only 1 gig of memory on my dell.

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DAN
System Manufacturer Sony Corporation
System Model VGC-RB30
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1 GenuineIntel ~3000 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. EV91510A.04T.0062.2005.0811.0305, 8/11/2005
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"
User Name DAN\Dan Cagle
Time Zone Central Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.09 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.79 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by dancagle

Is it possible to run without the visulizations with only 1 gig of memory on my dell.

It may run OK without the visualization option, the only way to know is to try it. It may play initially but if you leave it on too long with all the other functions selected it may start to get over heated then you will start to get stuttering or jerky output. Every bodies set up is different, there are so many variables as to what else is running on your machine. The recommendations are really a warning not to expect all the functions to work flawlessly unless you have the minimum but no doubt you could run it with limited functions.

Roy.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by dancagle

Is it possible to run without the visulizations with only 1 gig of memory on my dell.

It should be . The visualizations seem to jump the memory load up drastically. Best way to find out is to try it and see if you have any problems.

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by dancagle

Is it possible to run without the visulizations with only 1 gig of memory on my dell.

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DAN
System Manufacturer Sony Corporation
System Model VGC-RB30
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1 GenuineIntel ~3000 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. EV91510A.04T.0062.2005.0811.0305, 8/11/2005
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"
User Name DAN\Dan Cagle
Time Zone Central Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.09 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.79 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

I only have one gb and everything works great except visualizations for the BA. It works for visualizations in the BA but it's slow, so I dont use it. It does work fine for the occasional audio song from the playlist, it just adds a couple seconds to the delay.

I think where visualizations are concerned processor speed is more important than memory (Dale correct me if I'm wrong), and your processor apears to be much better than mine. probably.

Sam

[billyo]

Originally Posted by dancagle

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DAN
System Manufacturer Sony Corporation
System Model VGC-RB30
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1 GenuineIntel ~3000 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. EV91510A.04T.0062.2005.0811.0305, 8/11/2005
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"
User Name DAN\Dan Cagle
Time Zone Central Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.09 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.79 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys


I did load 4.10 on my Toshiba laptop and it seems to be working. It is running xp and has 1.5 MB of Ram.
I realize that the memory may be the problem with my Dell laptop,

just wondering what model Dell laptop do you have

[billyo]

before i upgrade to 4.10 these are my laptops info,( Dell E1405 ) just wanted to make sure it will work

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name BILL-3F6A36FB29
System Manufacturer Dell Inc.
System Model MXC061
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 14 Stepping 8 GenuineIntel ~1664 Mhz
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 14 Stepping 8 GenuineIntel ~1664 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Dell Inc. A10, 4/2/2007
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2705 (xpsp.050622-1524)"
User Name BILL-3F6A36FB29\Administrator
Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 1,536.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 930.28 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.34 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

[EmilioM]

Haven't downloaded 4.10 yet because I'm a little afraid after reading some of these posts. Just bought a new computer because the other one crashed and may not be able to get repaired. Anyway, just wanted to know if this version would give me any problems. I'm hoping I can get it because of some of the features, like being able to change brand on multiple songs. Here is my the info on my computer.


OS Name Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium
Version 6.0.6002 Service Pack 2 Build 6002
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name ARDLJQX0RP
System Manufacturer Gateway
System Model LX6810-01
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz, 2336 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. R01-A0, 10/31/2008
SMBIOS Version 2.5
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.0.6002.18005"
User Name ARDLJQX0RP\Owner
Time Zone Central Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 8.00 GB
Available Physical Memory 6.16 GB
Total Virtual Memory 16.2 GB
Available Virtual Memory 14.1 GB
Page File Space 8.29 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Please let me know, cause I'm looking forward to getting this.

Thanx

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Emilio,

Give it a try... it is very stable on most user's computers, with alot less features, speed, memory, etc. that your computer has... Report back if you incurr any problems after downloading 4.10, and you'll get a bunch of eager beta testers helping you along the way... Enjoy!

P.S.
Make sure all the Vista guidelines are followed prior to downloading... and if later you find it necessary to switch back to 4.xxx ( have a copy of your current version ) just do a uninstall / install, and you are back to where your computer was stable... I'm betting that you will not have any problems, once the Vista recommended proceedure for Hoster is followed..

[billyo]

i was hesitant at first, but i took a chance caused you wouldn't know if youre going to have a problem till you tried, but anyway everything seems to be working fine on my laptop, just got to figure out the background audio..