How do I add songs to Singers Database?

[admin]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Walt,
Please take this in the manner it was intended. Admin was joking with me. His comment was directed at me and not at you or any other users. It is a well no "fact" (myth?) that men do not ask for directions or read the instructions before trying to assemble or work with something. And he and I have talked about this many times. That is why he was picking on me. It was in no way meant to insult you are anyone else.

Just to set the record straight the problem in the early versions 4.00 wasn't Vista so much as it was was Microsoft's failure to inform software developers who pay a large amount for Microsoft support. Microsoft failed to inform them on the changes they made in Vista and how to work with those changes. MTU did a great job with some help from us all in figuring out what needed to be done in Vista to make their programs work. The whole time all this was going on those using XP were having very few problems.

So if you were offended I will apologize for myself and MTU for now. I am sure that Admin will also apologize in the morning when he sees your post. As he said he had been up since midnight working on getting the manual ready for 4.10 and doing some re-writing to make things easier to find. This thread is proof that some improvements needed to be made to the existing manual.

Thank you Dale for your soothing influence here. Your 40+ years in the Air Force (God bless you!) on Tech Support has given you much grace and wisdom, as I clearly need more of.

Originally Posted by admin

Dale, shame on you telling a MAN to read the manual! Don't you know "we"don't do that?

So... why have I spent over half my past 41 years writing manuals? Dunno... maybe I'm tupid!

Been at it today since 12:06AM on Hoster 4.10....

WaltR, what can I say? There was nothing in my post pointed at you. If you feel I owe you (not Dale) and apology, then I offer it now. I truly appreciate ever customer and participant in the MTU.Community.

I had been up since 12:06AM and posted 8 hours and 5 minutes later. I was doing CREATIVE writing, which is very taxing. I was so tired I was punchy. I let my hair down and joked for one post. I'm sorry you didn't pick up on it.

As a MAN, I very well know my reticence to read manuals, even though I write them myself. I got tired of writers I hired not learnling how the product worked and thus writing fiction. The manual may be hard to read, but it is accurate.

As Dale posted, he and I have had MANY discussions how to better organize the manual. I have been doing just that.

My comment about "maybe I'm tupid" was at me written to Dale, not you or any other honored customer. I have been burning 20 hours/day for over a week on the 4.10 manual, and my brain is about at its limit.

I am not as sharp as I used to be, and at that moment, I truly was feeling stupid... unable to grasp the new concepts and write clearly about them.

I'm restructuring the manual from being "reference" focus to being "feature" focus. It's stressful as I'm an engineer by talent and skill. I've got to come out of my comfort zone to restructure the manual.

The new changes we are finishing in 4.10 are incredible; audio fading in/out, a new Background Audio Player under automated control by Hoster to fade in audio whenever Hoster stops (or before your show begins), and one of the longest requested features... removing silence at the start/end of Karaoke songs.

But we didn't just remove silence, we draw the TItle page and any others very quickly so you can see in a fraction of a second (i.e. no wait time). It is SO GOOD, that some of our Beta Testers croaked on us!

They said there isn't ENOUGH time before the music starts. No, that was our goal; the song now starts exactly where the music starts. One can say we did TOO GOOD a job. So, we have added a new feature in the Remove Silence dialog box where you can add an exact amount of silence BACK IN (0-9 seconds) before the audio starts, and independently, after it finishes.

But then some songs didn't have that much silence in front of the audio to start, so they were erroring out. So, we change the code so if the start of the song to the start of audio (the silence we remove) is LESS THAN the fixed silence you want, we can give you back the silence we removed, but no more. This will go out for testing today, Lord willing.

This release is being pollished as never before. While I'm writing now, I run Hoster in background. It is so pleasing to hear the audio fading, with no silence (I set my Add Silence values to "0") between them.

Do we need crossfade? That means adding an OVERLAP where two songs are playing together. Well, given that the DEMAND was to add silenece back in, I don't think Hoster users will want OVERLAP, but if I'm wrong, as I have been many times, then we'll add an Overlap field so you can dial in what you want. We're just toolmakers... you folks are the users and we do our best with our talents and skllls to give you the very best possible to meet your DESIRES... not just needs and wants.

I hope you have a great day,and again I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by admin

Thank you Dale for your soothing influence here. Your 40+ years in the Air Force (God bless you!) on Tech Support has given you much grace and wisdom, as I clearly need more of.


WaltR, what can I say? There was nothing in my post pointed at you. If you feel I owe you (not Dale) and apology, then I offer it now. I truly appreciate ever customer and participant in the MTU.Community.

I had been up since 12:06AM and posted 8 hours and 5 minutes later. I was doing CREATIVE writing, which is very taxing. I was so tired I was punchy. I let my hair down and joked for one post. I'm sorry you didn't pick up on it.

As a MAN, I very well know my reticence to read manuals, even though I write them myself. I got tired of writers I hired not learnling how the product worked and thus writing fiction. The manual may be hard to read, but it is accurate.

As Dale posted, he and I have had MANY discussions how to better organize the manual. I have been doing just that.

My comment about "maybe I'm tupid" was at me written to Dale, not you or any other honored customer. I have been burning 20 hours/day for over a week on the 4.10 manual, and my brain is about at its limit.

I am not as sharp as I used to be, and at that moment, I truly was feeling stupid... unable to grasp the new concepts and write clearly about them.

I'm restructuring the manual from being "reference" focus to being "feature" focus. It's stressful as I'm an engineer by talent and skill. I've got to come out of my comfort zone to restructure the manual.

The new changes we are finishing in 4.10 are incredible; audio fading in/out, a new Background Audio Player under automated control by Hoster to fade in audio whenever Hoster stops (or before your show begins), and one of the longest requested features... removing silence at the start/end of Karaoke songs.

But we didn't just remove silence, we draw the TItle page and any others very quickly so you can see in a fraction of a second (i.e. no wait time). It is SO GOOD, that some of our Beta Testers croaked on us!

They said there isn't ENOUGH time before the music starts. No, that was our goal; the song now starts exactly where the music starts. One can say we did TOO GOOD a job. So, we have added a new feature in the Remove Silence dialog box where you can add an exact amount of silence BACK IN (0-9 seconds) before the audio starts, and independently, after it finishes.

But then some songs didn't have that much silence in front of the audio to start, so they were erroring out. So, we change the code so if the start of the song to the start of audio (the silence we remove) is LESS THAN the fixed silence you want, we can give you back the silence we removed, but no more. This will go out for testing today, Lord willing.

This release is being pollished as never before. While I'm writing now, I run Hoster in background. It is so pleasing to hear the audio fading, with no silence (I set my Add Silence values to "0") between them.

Do we need crossfade? That means adding an OVERLAP where two songs are playing together. Well, given that the DEMAND was to add silenece back in, I don't think Hoster users will want OVERLAP, but if I'm wrong, as I have been many times, then we'll add an Overlap field so you can dial in what you want. We're just toolmakers... you folks are the users and we do our best with our talents and skllls to give you the very best possible to meet your DESIRES... not just needs and wants.

I hope you have a great day,and again I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

I appreciate your response to my concern. Maybe I should apologize because I thought your post was directed to me and the others that were asking a question that I for one did not sort out in the manual. I understand being overly tired, in fact that was my state last night. So again, thank you and I offer my apology for over reacting and not understanding your post. I need to chill out a little I guess.

Walt

[admin]

Originally Posted by WaltR

I appreciate your response to my concern. Maybe I should apologize because I thought your post was directed to me and the others that were asking a question that I for one did not sort out in the manual. I understand being overly tired, in fact that was my state last night. So again, thank you and I offer my apology for over reacting and not understanding your post. I need to chill out a little I guess.

Walt

I'm glad you forgive me and understand.

Now, I hope you enjoy the Singers Database. It's a wonderful tool to help you make your "regulars" feel special. It can even save the Key Change for individual songs for each singer! That'll impress them when they return for the next show... which is our goal to help you, our customer.

[JNS02]

Originally Posted by Beavis

admin, you dont have to apoligize to anyone here !

You are right Bevis, But WaltR and Admin are REAL MEN and know when they MAY have said something that offended someone and own up to that. Everyone was just trying to help.

I have found (for my own benefit) that printing the Manual is easier for me to find things in it. (And Yes, I am a man and DID read the manual start to finish) Thanks Admin.

I also carry the page about importing singers disc with me as some have thought I was 'stealing' their songs from their disc, this way I can show them that the song is in a temp file that deletes after being played and protects them and their music.