getting new Mixer: Mackie???

[Monolithent]

Originally Posted by bryant

Great info Lon, I knew you'd jump in here sooner or later.

When you say 1/4" to XLR. Just curious why that would make a diff. as compared to bal. 1/4" on both ends, as it's only the end that is adapted and not the continuous length of wire. Think I read that somewhere?

It really wouldn't, not enough to really make a difference. It is still the same signal. You can get cables that have an XLR on one end and a TRS on the other so you don't have to adapt. The more often you adapt the more signal you lose.

[billyo]

i'm not knocking Behringer out, but soundwise i prefer mackie's over anything, and price wise it's reasonable, and talking about amps, i also prefer crowns, i have 2 crown amps the CE1000 which i have my ( 2 ) 3 way JBl Soundf Factor hooked up , and CE2000 where my (2 ) subs are connected via Subsonic Harmonizer with a built in Subs connections, this way i dont have to use any crossovers or any eq's all these are connected to my mackies CFX 12 with channel assignable feature..which i assigned all the vocals to channels 1/2 and the sounds assigned to channels 3/4,which i can control thru my main fader, and my 2 stage monitors assigned to aux/send 1&2 by themselves and with their own volume control..

[bryant]

Originally Posted by billyo

i'm not knocking Behringer out, but soundwise i prefer mackie's over anything, and price wise it's reasonable, and talking about amps, i also prefer crowns, i have 2 crown amps the CE1000 which i have my ( 2 ) 3 way JBl Soundf Factor hooked up , and CE2000 where my (2 ) subs are connected via Subsonic Harmonizer with a built in Subs connections, this way i dont have to use any crossovers or any eq's all these are connected to my mackies CFX 12 with channel assignable feature..which i assigned all the vocals to channels 1/2 and the sounds assigned to channels 3/4,which i can control thru my main fader, and my 2 stage monitors assigned to aux/send 1&2 by themselves and with their own volume control..

Isn't channels 3/4 for mic inputs though?

[billyo]

Originally Posted by bryant

no,on a mackie cfx 12 board ,you can do either, you can have the music running on 1/2 and the vocals on 3/4.. both have their own fader thats whats good with assignable channels you can choose whatever channels you wanted.

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by bryant

Isn't channels 3/4 for mic inputs though?

He is talking about subgroups which the PROFX does not have.

[Monolithent]

Originally Posted by billyo

i'm not knocking Behringer out, but soundwise i prefer mackie's over anything, and price wise it's reasonable, and talking about amps, i also prefer crowns, i have 2 crown amps the CE1000 which i have my ( 2 ) 3 way JBl Soundf Factor hooked up , and CE2000 where my (2 ) subs are connected via Subsonic Harmonizer with a built in Subs connections, this way i dont have to use any crossovers or any eq's all these are connected to my mackies CFX 12 with channel assignable feature..which i assigned all the vocals to channels 1/2 and the sounds assigned to channels 3/4,which i can control thru my main fader, and my 2 stage monitors assigned to aux/send 1&2 by themselves and with their own volume control..

Not disagreeing with you by any means. I love Mackies. If I had the money to afford them for my systems I would. My preference over them is Soundcraft or Allen & Heath. Even then not every Soundcraft. I have my subs running off one of the Crown CE2000 amps and it sounds very good.

There are several good amps on the market. I listened to many of them back to back. The Behringer had just as good a sound as nearly any of them and was the lowest cost. Without real measuring equipment I will guarantee not too many people can tell the difference between them. Don't misunderstand. I love other brands and there were others that sounded better but I didn't see why I would spend that much more money for something that didn't sound that much better.

[billyo]

Originally Posted by Monolithent

Not disagreeing with you by any means. I love Mackies. If I had the money to afford them for my systems I would. My preference over them is Soundcraft or Allen & Heath. Even then not every Soundcraft. I have my subs running off one of the Crown CE2000 amps and it sounds very good.

There are several good amps on the market. I listened to many of them back to back. The Behringer had just as good a sound as nearly any of them and was the lowest cost. Without real measuring equipment I will guarantee not too many people can tell the difference between them. Don't misunderstand. I love other brands and there were others that sounded better but I didn't see why I would spend that much more money for something that didn't sound that much better.

yes thats true some people might not be able to tell, but i'm pretty sure i could ( i have bought a few of them, i had 6 of them at one time) peaveys, mackies, qsc's,non of them in my opinion sounded better than the 2 crowns i have, not even the mackie amp. ( and i love Mackies ).. i have listen to Behringers, as a matter of fact i bought a Behringer board a while back and it was cheap like you said ( just can't remember the models name, i know it was a digital one ) it just didnt have the sound i was looking for, it didnt sound good to my ears, so i ended up selling it to a friend of mine after a few days, and they like it..same thing with subs, there are subs that has a short throw and a long throw, and i'm pretty sure that most people buys a sub w/o knowing what kind of subs they're buying..( thats another topic )