4.06 Lyrics still out of sync.

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Jim,

OK, got show computer out and started Hoster, checked for player, and NEW is installed. Started a trial song (kma) and sync issue was there. Switched to OLD player, and restarted Hoster with a different song and sync issue is still there. Hoster starts with MTU logo each start, and then I have my own logo that appears in the intermission screen. Add first song to playlist, hit play, and out of sync issue is there, until I restart, then no more problems, until next restart of Hoster program.

Marklwood,

Yeah, I normally don't rush or panic. This is after MTU logo plays, and my logo appears in intermission screen. Add song to playlist, hit play and sync issue is there! I used to, and have prior to show, out of habit I guess since 4.03 or 4.04, start and restart first song to insure lyrics stay in sync, and for the most part, hadn't been an issue until I upgraded to version 4.06 and started show Friday nite without start/restart of first song (Mine) and as luck would have it the sync issue popped out and I called my assistant to restart song, and never glitched rest of the night.

Sooooo...?

Thanks Guys!

Rick
Rikki Tikki Karaoke

Rick
Rikki Tikki Karaoke

[madjim- with the Lord]

Rick,
Does this happens every single time you start a song in 4.06 the first time you open Hoster 4.06? Are you saying you can go back to 4.05 and and the problem does not happen?

The one time I saw a consistant sync problem with a Beta, it was due to a video driver issue. Here's the weird part, the lasted drivers were causing the problem. I had to try TOO MANY old drivers until I found one that my video card liked. This may not be the case here, I'm just sharing.

You say you:

Add song to playlist, hit play and sync issue is there!

Do you start with a clear playlist every time you open Hoster? I don't, I always open Hoster with a couple of songs left on the list from the gig before. Once Hoster is loaded, I delete the old songs then add my first song/songs. This may make not help, it's just a difference that I see.

Jim

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Jim,

Normally I start with a fresh playlist, unless I had a few residue songs that I didn't get to in the previous show. 4.05 had the issue where the original playlist would come back after you turn on next show, and all I do is delete any residue and start a new playlist for each show. Also had the original playlist without modifications ( songs that had played already, or rotation changes, deletions, etc. ) pop up when you had to revert back to 3.4 during 4.05 version. I haven't ran 4.06 that many times but will try a few of your suggestions, and wait for others to report whether they incurred the same problem, before I figure out what is causing it. Very minor glitch, and it won't keep me from experimenting with new effects. I dont use videos or instabuttons right now, so those are future items that I may or may not use during show, but want to familiarize myself with the newest features, so I can improve my show as we travel towards 4.10 with MTU.

Thanks for the help!

Rick
Rikki Tikki Karaoke

[madjim- with the Lord]

Rick,
I figured you started with songs sometimes and without songs others (like me), it was just a thought.

I think you will find that 4.06 is better overall than 4.05. I just click on a shourtcut to Hoster in the area next to my Start button, wait for 4.06 to load then start working with it. I don't use any start/restart procedure.

As far as I know Rick, you are the only person who has reported that Hoster 4.XX runs the first song out of sync everytime on XP.

Of course, get all of the Windows Custom Updates....bla ba bla. Install 4.06, use the old player and run it for a day or two. Everytime I upgrade to a new version of Hoster, I set up a five hour test playlist in auto mode and just let it run. Maybe this lets Hoster adjust to my system. Just another thought. I set it up where the songs stay on the "Test" playlist. When the playlist stops I just reastart Hoster to run it again for another five hours.

If you find that you have to run your MUX videos in 3.40 (you should be able to run them in 4.06 with the old player), be sure to open 4.06 first. They will run side by side, with both open at the same time. Just minimize the one you are not using.

Jim

[RIKKI TIKKI]

Jim,

It's got to be a video card issue. It's only on my show computer that I get the out of sync issue, so I'll check for updates and driver changes that may be affecting that card, and see if I overlooked something!

Thanks Again!

Rick
Rikki Tikki Karaoke

[madjim- with the Lord]

Keep me posted Rick.

When I said "always" I guess I should of said 99% of the time.

Thanks

Jim

[admin]

Originally Posted by madjim

As far as I know Rick, you are the only person who has reported that Hoster 4.XX runs the first song out of sync everytime on XP.

Of course, get all of the Windows Custom Updates....bla ba bla. Install 4.06, use the old player and run it for a day or two. Everytime I upgrade to a new version of Hoster, I set up a five hour test playlist in auto mode and just let it run. Maybe this lets Hoster adjust to my system. Just another thought. I set it up where the songs stay on the "Test" playlist. When the playlist stops I just reastart Hoster to run it again for another five hours.

Jim, you are right; we haven't heard any sync problems on XP.

Jim, I think your nuts! But then I'm just the tired ol' Pres up since 12:48AM (yawn).

I don't know how Hoster would "adjust" to a system. That implies "learning" and the type of code that can "self modify" is today called a VIRUS! We don't have any files that could do what you are implying.

I think I understand where you are coming from; Hoster has a problem, you run it several times on the computer, and Hoster no longer has a problem.

I'd have to say there is something about the computer's Windows Registry that may be changing.

I'd run a Registry Cleaner program. I'm starting to think we should make a standard FAQ about this, and provide a link to a free cleaner program that we all know and trust will do the job.

Originally Posted by RIKKI TIKKI

It's got to be a video card issue. It's only on my show computer that I get the out of sync issue, so I'll check for updates and driver changes that may be affecting that card, and see if I overlooked something!

Rick, please post back here what you discover. "Sync" problem reports are the kiss of death, and we don't thinki there is anything else we can do to preven this.

One other question, please tell us about your:

Processor Type (Intel/AMD, Celeron, Duron, P4, Core2Duo, etc.):
Processor Speed:
RAM:
Video RAM:

We have found that AMD processors can't do the same math that Intel's do cause Intel has a patent that AMD can't circumvent.

We also are starting to think that you may need at least a 2GB processor to run 4.0x. Don't know yet, and your stats will help us understand this more. For example, if you have a 1GB Celeron, that may be the problem.

Bryan (MTUSUPPORT) has identified that some of the cheaper HP laptops coming out now with Celerons just don't have the Umpft to do the job.