Sorry To Hear Everbody's Problems

[marklwood]

Originally Posted by johnocolin

"Most of us are not having all of these problems because we have tweaked our systems to work with Hoster".

And there we have it!.Along comes MR.Normal Computer Owner who hasn´t got the money for 2 Computers.Installs his Hoster onto the Computer besides his MS Office,Movie Players,Games and the rest and yeah guess what ...problems!!.

What i´m saying is the software should run on a fairly average computer.If i can get a 2GB complex Game or Steinberg Cubase to run then Hoster can do it to,without Tweaking!!.

And there we have it!! This program is targeted at serious professionals. How much do you spend on CDGs? The price of a dedicated computer is small $$ compared to the investment in the music. Would you let the kids/wife/neighbors kids play with your CDGs? Then why would you let other programs take a crap on your bread and butter? If this is only for your home system and enjoyment, might I suggest a nice plug-in for Windows Media Player? As far as an average computer, you don't need the latest and greatest computer to run Hoster. The system that is running at my bar as we speak is a 1.7 ghz single core pentium. The only thing special about it is a 256 meg video card that I paid $50 for. There is, and will never be, ANYTHING but what I absolutely need to run my shows from on that PC. I spent less $$ on that computer than I did for a pair of speakers.

Please reconsider what is really important here. Moving forward with this software to continue to be a market leader in the field of karaoke. I, for one, have gambled my entire financial future on the business of karaoke. I will stand behind MTU because I believe they will always be the market leader in karaoke software and I have a quarter million dollar investment in my bar that is tied to that. If I am willing to risk that, don't you think that I would be the first one to bitch if I thought this was not going to work itself out?

[billyo]

Originally Posted by marklwood

And there we have it!! This program is targeted at serious professionals. How much do you spend on CDGs? The price of a dedicated computer is small $$ compared to the investment in the music. Would you let the kids/wife/neighbors kids play with your CDGs? Then why would you let other programs take a crap on your bread and butter? If this is only for your home system and enjoyment, might I suggest a nice plug-in for Windows Media Player? As far as an average computer, you don't need the latest and greatest computer to run Hoster. The system that is running at my bar as we speak is a 1.7 ghz single core pentium. The only thing special about it is a 256 meg video card that I paid $50 for. There is, and will never be, ANYTHING but what I absolutely need to run my shows from on that PC. I spent less $$ on that computer than I did for a pair of speakers.

Please reconsider what is really important here. Moving forward with this software to continue to be a market leader in the field of karaoke. I, for one, have gambled my entire financial future on the business of karaoke. I will stand behind MTU because I believe they will always be the market leader in karaoke software and I have a quarter million dollar investment in my bar that is tied to that. If I am willing to risk that, don't you think that I would be the first one to bitch if I thought this was not going to work itself out?

another suggestion for home use is to get one of those mic's that has 2,000 or more songs in it for $300, then maybe you wouldnt have any problems, you're just gonna get a sound that it looks like you're singing under a bridge..but if you want to be a professional kj use mtu's product..

[BEECEE]

Originally Posted by johnocolin

"What i´m saying is the software should run on a fairly average computer.If i can get a 2GB complex Game or Steinberg Cubase to run then Hoster can do it to,without Tweaking!!.

I understand and agree with where you’re coming from. Fortunately, I’ve not had many issues with MTU Hoster 4.01 & 4.02. Although I do have a large number of other applications installed on my PC, I routinely ensure that all Microsoft OS updates, hardware drivers, spyware/virus protection etc is kept up to date. That being said, if I was reliant on MTU Hoster for business continuity, based on the experiences of others on this forum, I would only have the essential ‘show’ programs installed on my ‘show’ PC.

Originally Posted by marklwood

And there we have it!! This program is targeted at serious professionals. How much do you spend on CDGs?

Originally Posted by billyo

another suggestion for home use is to get one of those mic's that has 2,000 or more songs in it for $300, then maybe you wouldnt have any problems, you're just gonna get a sound that it looks like you're singing under a bridge..but if you want to be a professional kj use mtu's product..

Hoster is not only the realm of so-called Karaoke Pros – so don’t assume that a number of Home Users have not invested a considerable amount of time and money into their Karaoke systems. In my view, the ‘suggestions’ that home users purchase one of those ‘sing-along’ karaoke mikes and/or get a ‘nice plug-in for Windows media player’ are condescending.

Over the past 10 years I’ve purchased (brand new for home use only) over 500 CDGs (incl SC Foundation 1, 2 & the 5 Bricks) , a number of Karaoke Video CDs, two JVC triple tray players, Peavey PA gear incl SP5G speakers, Shure SM58s (corded and wireless), Sennheiser E835s etc. Over that time I’ve made some mistakes in terms of ‘brand’ selection and have learned from those mistakes.

Two years ago, after considerable research, I purchased the entire suite of MTU products (Hoster, Microstudio, Songverter, Vogone and KHPro) and have continued to upgrade to all of the current MTU versions during that time.

My point is that all MTU customers (both Home User & KJ/Pro customers) pay the same purchase price and share the same expectations in terms of product performance and reliability.

The key difference between Home User and KJ/Pro is the fact that for the Home User it’s a hobby and for the KJ/Pro it’s a living. However MTU products appeal to and are used by a broad customer base.

MTU has a history of improving and innovating their great products and, along with this forum, provides great support. I'll continue to support them.

[billyo]

i am not assuming anything, i myself invested a lot of money for home used, i bought 4 mackie boards ( 2 dfx6, 1 cfx 12 and 1 dfx 12 ) 2 mackie active srm 450 speakers 4 active krk studio monitors ( 2 rokit 6 limited editon, 2 rp-8 and a 10" sub.) 4 mic's ( 2 audix and 2 audio technica wireless ) cd/vcd player, a dell pc with lcd monitor ( i use microstudio for home ) 1/2 of them is in my garage ( converted into a small studio ) the other 1/2 is in my family room, all i'm saying was for people that wanted to used hoster for home, get something simple, " hoster is a serious" software and mtu is working theire butts of trying to give most of us asked /wanted....and by the way i have 4 3 way jbls and 4 1-18" sub. for sale if anybody's interested

[marklwood]

Originally Posted by BEECEE

That being said, if I was reliant on MTU Hoster for business continuity, based on the experiences of others on this forum, I would only have the essential ‘show’ programs installed on my ‘show’ PC.

Hoster is not only the realm of so-called Karaoke Pros – so don’t assume that a number of Home Users have not invested a considerable amount of time and money into their Karaoke systems.

Over the past 10 years I’ve purchased (brand new for home use only) over 500 CDGs (incl SC Foundation 1, 2 & the 5 Bricks) , a number of Karaoke Video CDs, two JVC triple tray players, Peavey PA gear incl SP5G speakers, Shure SM58s (corded and wireless), Sennheiser E835s etc. Over that time I’ve made some mistakes in terms of ‘brand’ selection and have learned from those mistakes.

Alhough I was a little heated when I replied, my point was exactly this. If anyone is willing to fork over the $$ for all those CDGs, PA equipment & the price of the software, Pro or Home user, isn't it worth it to spend a few more dollars on a used PC to tie it all together?

I have typically just use the PC I retired at the house to run Hoster on (originally a 700mhz Duron processor with 128 megs of ram). After a clean minimum install of XP, I go online, update Windows and install Hoster. It takes a LOT less resources than Photoshop, or Video editing software that you would typically have on a home PC, making that old computer a perfect candidate for use as a dedicated karaoke machine. The PC I am using currently, I picked up at an office sale for $50. I put another $75 in a video card and a stick of ram and BINGO, I have a rock solid karaoke system to protect all my CDGs. I would expect to pay more than that for cases just to cart the CDGs around in.

[MackieRocks]

God bless the Beta testers, and God bless 3.4X!

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by billyo

...all i'm saying was for people that wanted to used hoster for home, get something simple...

This market is exactly what Hoster Lite was created for. The trend these days in all kinds of activities is to adapt and use professional tools for home use. Do-it-youselfers are getting more savy everyday. They are the reason Home Depot exists.They want professional style tools for home repair and auto repair etc, why should karaoke be any different. Hoster Lite is a professional style tool designed for the non professional. Yeah you could jury-rig a usable setup from free stuff on the net but then that wouldn't be very professional.

IMHO
Sam

[billyo]

Originally Posted by mindonstrike

This market is exactly what Hoster Lite was created for. The trend these days in all kinds of activities is to adapt and use professional tools for home use. Do-it-youselfers are getting more savy everyday. They are the reason Home Depot exists.They want professional style tools for home repair and auto repair etc, why should karaoke be any different. Hoster Lite is a professional style tool designed for the non professional. Yeah you could jury-rig a usable setup from free stuff on the net but then that wouldn't be very professional.

IMHO
Sam

oh yeah , i forgot about hoster lite..sorry

[gd123]

I have not upgraded as my 1st clue was bundling 3.4 with 4.0.

My 2nd clue was the 2 years it took to get 4.0 and seeing the list of improvements that had nothing to do with making it any easier to get a song into the playlist. 2 years...and all that was accomplished was to change the format of the SND (which is the ONLY improvement that the SINGERS see)? 2 years...and I add a BookID and a Singer's name to the Playlist in the EXACT same way prior to 4.0 (Am I STILL typing the SAME Singer's Name into the Playlist OVER AND OVER again)? 2 years...and the Playlist looks EXACTLY the same? 2 years...and there is NO DRAG AND DROP?

My 3rd clue was the "reduced" upgrade price for "loyal" customers.

As stated perfectly in another Post, the customers are not Beta testers and, I will add, not guinea pigs.

MTU has missed the mark and I will wait patiently until they do hit the mark.