KJ's Place in the rotation

[wildnights1]

Originally Posted by karaoke koyote

I think what it comes down to is: am I entertaining, or do I think I'm being entertaining?

The only way to verfiy that is whether or not your singers come back every week, and do they bring friends? If the answer is yes, keep doing it. If the answer is no... stop.

There's no argurment... some hosts can do this well, others can't. Period the end
You can't keep a gig on going if the bar isn't making money. That means non-singers need to be there as well.

Sell drinks, entertain, and keep your singers happy and coming back. I don't think that's going to happen if all you're doing is changing songs and introducing the next singer all night. Boooorrring!

Exactly, you have to entertain and listen to what the patrons want, and sometimes it may be you singing and sometimes it may be you not sining.
Also, you have to let the people know what else goes on at this venue, that way you are bringing in business even when you are not there..
You have to get into the action, talk with people, find out whay THEY want, and give it to them (within reason).

[gd123]

12 minutes of 240 minutes...I'm still ROTFLMAO.

I'm still ROTFLMAO.

It appears that karaoke koyote is the only one running a S H O W...not mindless, by the numbers, KARAOKE, and is why I get paid MORE than any other KJ in this city...because I have a SHOW...like KJ hosts used to run when Karaoke first came on the scene.

It's why the patrons KEEP COMING BACK, which is the difference between SUBSTANCE and APPERANCE.

I don't have time for any Singer who complains...no matter the reason.

Kind of like the 2 Singers who have to stick their finger in their ear to get on key and expect you, the KJ, to buy and set up a floor monitor when the other 28 Singers have no problem. Not going to happen...ever.

I'm just like "Other" businesses in that respect...if the majority of people aren't complaining; it's not worth fixing.

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by gd123

Kind of like the 2 Singers who have to stick their finger in their ear to get on key and expect you, the KJ, to buy and set up a floor monitor when the other 28 Singers have no problem. Not going to happen...ever.

I used audio monitors for years as a musician. They are a standard part of any pro sound/stage setup. Keeping up with an audio monitor mix may be more than some folks want to deal with but it helps the singers stay in tune which makes the show sound better.

I have one place where I don't use an audio monitor because it is too small. I turn the mains in a little.

There are many different types of shows. If a Karaoke Host is getting paid on a regular basis, they must be doing something right.

Jim

[CerealKiller]

I sing first I make sure everything sounds good most of the time there is only one or two people to start cause i get here early and if someone turns in a slip I start. I do think its a good idea to take yourself out if the rotation gets big which I do all the time. I do get alot of requests to sing songs for someone so I don't always take myself out but it is a good idea.

[wildnights1]

I start at the time the management has hired me for, whether there is anybody there with a slip or not.The one venue I do we start at 10PM and go until 2AM.Quite often, there is very few people until 11,so I will have some fun trying out some songs that I'd like to work on, and this gives the few that are there a chance to see that I'm not there to be "perfect" and it will even encourage some people to try it out, then they get more courage for when there are more people there, and what do you know, another regular singer has evolved.
Have fun or go home!!

[muzicman144]

I personally don't run a karaoke show, i have a kj that worlds for me who does. I do a SHOW using the same type equipment and Hoster on both shows. Hoster is not only the best software for KJ"s, but also the best software for those who do shows. I have seen my show grow in the past six years that i can now travel performing my show 3-5 nights a week. Hoster gives a performer a program unmatched for a show. Now the KJ who runs my show is probably more talented than 99% of the Karaoke enthusiast, but only sings to break up the ongoing sap that most do in a row. He has the talent to turn a crowd around in one song, and can really perfom. I find this type show much more appealing than the ole herd 'em up, send through the shoot type of show. Having 40-50 singer rotations is not necessarily a good thing, nor is it alwasy appealing, because with that type of quanity at one place, quality has to suffer, especially when one has to really hurry at the end to get everyone a turn. But what entertains, works, no one can argue with that. I would like to hear more from Hoster users who are not Karaoke, but peromer based shows only.
muzicman144

[wildnights1]

Sounds like you have fun too.
I agree that having 40-50 singer rotations is not always good.I used to do a show on the Coast where I had about 40 or 50 singers that would come out, and it was hard to fit them all in more than once in a night, and then the next week would tend to be slow because they told me theythought it would "be like last week".
I actually ended up getting an extra two nights in the same vanue, three nights in a row, Sun,Mon, and Tues. They were all good nights, and is still used to happen that most or all of the "regulars" would come out on the same night, but not as often.
I worked there for four straight years and only left because I moved out of town.
I left the show with some competant people, but after 6 months, there was no more Karaoke at that pub, and still to this day they do not run it.
When I travel back to the coast every 3 months or so, I go in there for dinner and the manager still asks me "when are you coming back?" I'll start karaoke if you come back.(But I won't move back to the coast unless someone pays me $150,00/yr plus incentives. Too **** busy there, I like my little 7000 person town.)

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by wildnights1

Have fun or go home!!

Here Here!!!

Jim

[karaoke koyote]

Originally Posted by gd123

I'm still ROTFLMAO.

It appears that karaoke koyote is the only one running a S H O W...not mindless, by the numbers, KARAOKE, and is why I get paid MORE than any other KJ in this city...because I have a SHOW...like KJ hosts used to run when Karaoke first came on the scene.

It's why the patrons KEEP COMING BACK, which is the difference between SUBSTANCE and APPERANCE.

I don't have time for any Singer who complains...no matter the reason.

Kind of like the 2 Singers who have to stick their finger in their ear to get on key and expect you, the KJ, to buy and set up a floor monitor when the other 28 Singers have no problem. Not going to happen...ever.

I'm just like "Other" businesses in that respect...if the majority of people aren't complaining; it's not worth fixing.

I don't try to make anyone happy but myself. I've tried to put together the system I want to sing on. When I KJ, I try to be the host that I would like to go see. This is for fun, and I try not to get too serious about it. I don't care if the lady or guy can't sing, as long as they are having fun... I thank them for coming up, and paying me the ultimate compliment... having a good time at my show.

[Vinny]

At one of the bars I work they have a dart league that plays first. The person who comes in second for that night is the first singer. I don't sing that first rotation, but after that, when I sing, people know that the rotation is starting again.