what kind of mixer do you use

[muzicman144]

Just my opinion, but, you can take just about any type mixer and get a good sound if you have the speakers to match up. We can argue the pros and cons of all mixers and never agree. The best mixer won't get good sound without quality speakers, but a cheap mixer can get good sound with high quality speakers. Each mixer has its own little things we like and dislike. Sometimes we buy the name, "Allen & Heath, Mackie", Etc., but that doesn't guarantee you will get good sound. It is a combination of Mixer, effects, sound processors and quality speakers and you must add a person with a little sound knowledge to the mix.
Just an opinion
muzicman

[oncall]

what do you mean by sound processor? I am not new to singing, but am new to running sound!
thanks

[billyo]

Originally Posted by oncall

what do you mean by sound processor? I am not new to singing, but am new to running sound!
thanks

sound processors are an outboard equipments that can recreate or restores audio to theire original sounds..

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by oncall

what do you mean by sound processor? I am not new to singing, but am new to running sound!
thanks

Basic sound processors that many use:

Effects processor - reverb, delay, chorus, etc..
EQ processor - to adjust tonal shaping, feedback control & tuning the room to match your speakers.
Compressor processor - Keeps vocal signals in check/balanced so the screamers are a little more manageable levels.
Sonic Maximizer processor - A frequency aligner which was designed to aide in speaker deficiencies but also thickens & brightens the final sound.

[swany]

I have run, Vocopro mixer with kenwood and crown amps MTX speakers.
EV mixer with Peavey 800 amps. Peavey SP4 speakers, Both good units and nice sound. I have since bought Peavey 1200 watt mixer amps for wgt space factors Peavey tower speakers. I've sold all my mixers and amps but one crown 600, that will go to the first with $150. Since going PC for my gigs DJ and KJ my sound has improved and life is good.

[Monolithent]

Just keeping this going.

Behringer 1222FX mixer and behringer EP 2500 amp to Peavey SP-5 speakers.

Tweaked right provides sound that I will put up against any similar equipment of any brand.

Jon

Monolith Entertainment

[muzicman144]

Went from Yamaha mg12fx, ev 300 speakers QSC2450 Amp. w/ the normal sound processors, to two Bose L2 systems. I only received raves about my sound before, but, am always looking for better. These Bose Systems provide the best sound i have heard at the club-lounge scene in my thirty years of music.

muzicman144

[Monolithent]

I have heard the Bose and love it when it is run by someone who understands a sound system. I have heard it used by people with no system knowledge and it is horrible.

I test drove one a few years back. For how I run it wasn't my best choice so I went back to the twin full ranges that I used.

Jon

Monolith Entertainment

[CerealKiller]

Originally Posted by Lonman

Basic sound processors that many use:


Sonic Maximizer processor - A frequency aligner which was designed to aide in speaker deficiencies but also thickens & brightens the final sound.

I had problems with one of these at my first job probably because it was my first job or maybe just setup problems but it keep blowing up the horns

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by CerealKiller

I had problems with one of these at my first job probably because it was my first job or maybe just setup problems but it keep blowing up the horns

Most likely you had the presence turned up too high. People tend to use it as an external bass/treble control, which it is not - it does help in those areas that are lacking punch or brightness, but it shouldn't be the main eq.

[capnvic]

The Bose Systems work very well in small to midsize venues, but they don't seem to hold up to mid or long term use. One KJ I know has sent two of her Bose units back for service, one time because one of the audio inputs kept eminating a buzzing sound. She does several different venues with her system. (Average 10-12 different venues a month).

I find that my Mackie DFX-12 and DFX-6 mixers work very well with my Behringer 1500 Amp and my old Yamaha Club 12's or 15's. I find that the 12" Yamahas in a room that holds 30 to 40 people is just fine. I even use the Mackie mixers with my Pyle 1600w amp with no problems whatsoever.

[muzicman144]

[quote=capnvic;69411]The Bose Systems work very well in small to midsize venues, but they don't seem to hold up to mid or long term use. One KJ I know has sent two of her Bose units back for service, one time because one of the audio inputs kept eminating a buzzing sound. She does several different venues with her system. (Average 10-12 different venues a month).

I played 450 seat room New Years Eve, 600 seat room Fri-Sat, and a 800 seat room Sun. Two Bose Towers, 4 B-1 Bass Modules, Yamaha Mixer. Bose master volume on 2. Perfect sound covering the rooms. My friend has used the Bose for Two years 5 nights a week, Never had a problem. You have to know how to operate this system. Played on the road for years, the BEST SYSTEM i have had. The only two products in connection with sound or music production that has never given me the first problem is the Bose System and Hoster.
I realize we all have different opinions, just felt the Bose was getting a little trashed.
muzicman144

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by capnvic

The Bose Systems work very well in small to midsize venues,

Depends how you define different sized venues but I can tell you mine have worked awsomely in every venue I've ever played

but they don't seem to hold up to mid or long term use. One KJ I know has sent two of her Bose units back for service, one time because one of the audio inputs kept eminating a buzzing sound. She does several different venues with her system. (Average 10-12 different venues a month).

1 of my towers I've used continuosly for almost 4 years. My second tower I bought used off Ebay and have used it continuosly for 3 years. I have never had a hint of a problem.
Either I'm very lucky or your friend is very unlucky. I go through the Bose forum most every other day and I see very very few people who are having problems that require service, so I would say your friend is just unlucky.

Sam

[bobcox- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by muzicman144

Just my opinion, but, you can take just about any type mixer and get a good sound if you have the speakers to match up. We can argue the pros and cons of all mixers and never agree. The best mixer won't get good sound without quality speakers, but a cheap mixer can get good sound with high quality speakers. Each mixer has its own little things we like and dislike. Sometimes we buy the name, "Allen & Heath, Mackie", Etc., but that doesn't guarantee you will get good sound. It is a combination of Mixer, effects, sound processors and quality speakers and you must add a person with a little sound knowledge to the mix.
Just an opinion
muzicman

I agree 100%

[billyo]

Originally Posted by muzicman144

Just my opinion, but, you can take just about any type mixer and get a good sound if you have the speakers to match up. We can argue the pros and cons of all mixers and never agree. The best mixer won't get good sound without quality speakers, but a cheap mixer can get good sound with high quality speakers. Each mixer has its own little things we like and dislike. Sometimes we buy the name, "Allen & Heath, Mackie", Etc., but that doesn't guarantee you will get good sound. It is a combination of Mixer, effects, sound processors and quality speakers and you must add a person with a little sound knowledge to the mix.
Just an opinion
muzicman

i kinda agree and dis-agree with you.. i have tried a few boards outhere..and im kinda partial to mackies i've used behringer for a few days and plugged in my mackie powered speakers.the sound quality is not not that great.even with my processors plugged in ( BBE sound maximixer , 266 DBX compressor /gate, MPX Lexicon 100 dual channel proc. and an Aphex Aural Exciter ) i've tried the Boise tower speakers in which in my opinion is great for playbacks not for vocals..but anyway its just my opinion, and i agree with you , you have to have a bit of knowledge to do a mix..

[bryant]

Originally Posted by muzicman144

It is a combination of Mixer, effects, sound processors and quality speakers and you must add a person with a little sound knowledge to the mix.
Just an opinion
muzicman

I think we all know that.

[muzicman144]

Originally Posted by bryant

I think we all know that.

Bryant
From the reading of post concerning sound, i'm pretty sure everyone in this forum does not know this. That is why they read and post opinions and ask questions. I understand that most who read and post here are very knowledgeable about sound, but, we immediately had a post asking what are sound processors, who added he was new about sound and wanted to know more to help him run a better show. What i was attempting to do was point out to him was no matter what equipment one buys, sound must be developed. I have a friend who uses Radio Shack mixer and Nady mics combined with powered EV speakers and his sound is unbelievable. Go figure.

muzicman144

[wildnights1]

I use a Yorkville AudioPro 818 for shows that I need my own power, and a Soundcraft Spirit M4 for shows that have in house power.

But whatever you use, you have to set it properly for the venue, and adjust depending on how full it gets throughout the evening, don't just set it and forget it or it won't sound good.