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[cartunesdj]

Tricerasoft has offerings from Karaoke Monthly, Zoom, and others.

CAVS USA has their own branded versions as well as others, although I don't recall which brand at this time.

I've used both and they are perfectly legit. Remember to save your electronic receipts.

[admin]

Originally Posted by cartunesdj

Tricerasoft has offerings from Karaoke Monthly, Zoom, and others.

CAVS USA has their own branded versions as well as others, although I don't recall which brand at this time.

I've used both and they are perfectly legit. Remember to save your electronic receipts.

I DISAGREE!!!

First, DO NOT equate legal AUDIO with legal KARAOKE. They are different formats, and everything I have heard, and paid Lawyers to research, says they are different.

DISC DISTRIBUTION rights is NOT the same as DIGITAL DOWNLOAD RIGHTS. To sell a karaoke disc is granted in the USA, but to provide digital downloads is entirely different. That... I am confident of. About 6 months ago I was discussing this with two of the most reputable Karaoke Producers in the USA. Both told me the Record Labels and others who own the copyrights are NOT granting digital download rights for Karaoke.

To our knowledge... CAVS, a Korean company, has no license to distribute or digital download music in the USA,

To our knowledge... Tricerasoft, nor the producers they sell, have the right to digital downloads in the USA. Thus, their sales are illegal. Even though they are a Canadian company, their store is in the USA. Our lawyers forced removal of all their "Video Hoster" product from the shelves in the USA as they were infringing on our REGISTERED MARK "Hoster". I know first hand.

Our legal experts say that paying CAVS or Tricerasoft for songs does NOT give you the legal right to perform them, even if you keep their invoices. I'm simply reporting what I have been told by those who know and are in touch with the Record Labels who hold the digital rights.

If I were going out doing shows, I would NOT buy digital downloaded songs because I know of no one in the USA with digital download rights to Karaoke music.

Zoom is a bootleg producer, paying no royalties from what our contacts in the UK tell us.

I'm interested why you say "they are perfectly legit." Have you written "your vendors" to get a legal statement that they do have DIGITAL DOWNLOAD RIGHTS in the USA? Maybe you should...

As to the Pro-Burn custom discs with $3.00 - $5.00 a song with a minimum charge, these are made on systems that produce discs, and the royalties are automatically captured and paid to the "legal" MCPS licensing organization in the UK. I personally am in touch with them. They SPECIFICALLY REFUSE to grant the rights for digital download, but are fully licensing to produce custom discs of songs they license.

FYI: Read the legal research MTU has paid thousands of dollars for... just so you have the very best legal answers to your questions. However, you will not find digital downloads addressed there.

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by admin

Our legal experts say that paying CAVS or Tricerasoft for songs does NOT give you the legal right to perform them, even if you keep their invoices. I'm simply reporting what I have been told by those who know and are in touch with the Record Labels who hold the digital rights.

If I were going out doing shows, I would NOT buy digital downloaded songs because I know of no one in the USA with digital download rights to Karaoke music.

Admin,
THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THIS UP!
This point is not mentioned anywhere on Trcerasoft's web site.


I have purchased hundreds of MP3+g's in good faith fron Triderasoft over the past few months with no intention of breaking any laws. I'm learning that there are alot of grey areas when it comes to the karaoke track production business in general. Until this point I believed that I was buying the rights to make money with the tracks I downloaded but I now know this is not the case.

I see where I need to aquire as many hard copies of the MP3+G files (that are still available) that I bought from Tricerasoft (and delete the rest) to be legal in the USA. Do the Karaoke Monthly CAVS MP3+G's work well in Hoster? If so I will by the MP3+G's on disc dirctly from Karaoke Monthly in the future.

Thanks!

Jim

[madjim- with the Lord]

George,
Thanks for your input as well!

Jim

[George]

Your welcome..have a good one

[admin]

Here is another little "tid bit"...

From their own "About" page... BuyKaraokeDownloads.com is owned and operated by 4726236 Manitoba Corporation.

First, they are in Canada... selling illegally into the USA.

Second, who is 4726236 Manitoba Corporation?

Now tell me they are aboveboard and not hiding to make it legally expensive for anyone to go after them...

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by admin

I know of no one in the USA with digital download rights to Karaoke music.

To be fair I emailed Tricerasoft about this issue. Here is a copy of the email:

Re:
From: TriceraSoft Support (support@tricerasoft.com)
Sent:
Fri 11/02/07 12:55 AM

To:
Jim Hall (madjimhall@hotmail.com)

Karaoke Monthly and Forever Hits are USA suppliers, Zoom and Music Factory are UK suppliers, but our licensing is world wide and backed by each manufacturers.



Jim Hall wrote:

I do not own and establishment. Do the "performance" rights I'm purchasing cover use in the United States?

Thank You

Jim Hall

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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:24:48 -0400

From: support@tricerasoft.com

To: madjimhall@hotmail.com

Subject: Re:

Jim,

When you purchase the track you are purchasing it for "performance" (just like a CD+G disc) to entertain, we carry over the royalty to both the manufacturer and the copyright agency for the right to use the track. Performance means you get to use it to present or perform to others. This is however not related to your establishment, which should be subscribed to ASCAP/BMI or similar (this does not relate to you). You CAN NOT resell these songs - these are for your use, not for resale and only licensed for performance.

Support

Jim Hall wrote:

Hello,

I have been buying Karaoke tracks from your company and using them in the United States to entertain in bars. When I buy a Karaoke track from your company am I buying the right to make money with it in the United States?

Thank You

Jim Hall

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Jim