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Old September 13th, 2007, 12:14 PM
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problem with 2 ext. drives

i have 2 ext. drives hooked up on my laptop..everytime i searched for a song which i know i have on one of my ext. dr. the song wont come up..i re-built the database on both drives. still wont come up..but if i take one of the hardrives and hook it up on my other laptop the song will come up....
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Old September 13th, 2007, 02:16 PM
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Are you running Vista? Check the database at:
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Old September 13th, 2007, 02:28 PM
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Hoster will only see one of the drives.
check the path hoster is using??.
and hoster will see songs on that drive. Bob
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Old September 13th, 2007, 02:33 PM
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madjim.thanks for the reply, but i am not running vista i got xp pro i'll check on the hoster path when i get home ..thanks for your reply jim
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Old September 13th, 2007, 03:56 PM
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I don't run Vista either, I've just heard the stories about how it hides files.

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Old September 13th, 2007, 10:21 PM
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Hoster will only see one of the drives.
check the path hoster is using??.
and hoster will see songs on that drive. Bob
this might be a dumb question but everytime i import a song it goes into my g drive,,since its now almost full i imported the remaining songs on my h drive.. if hoster is only seeing one drive ( g ) how can i make hoster see the other drive drive ( h )
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Old September 13th, 2007, 10:48 PM
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i have 2 ext. drives hooked up on my laptop..everytime i searched for a song which i know i have on one of my ext. dr. the song wont come up..i re-built the database on both drives. still wont come up..but if i take one of the hardrives and hook it up on my other laptop the song will come up....
I'm reading this a little differently than others are I think, so just to clarify: You have one 1 library split up on 2 ext drives. OR is it 2 separate libraries.
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i re-built the database on both drives.
Was it 1 rebuild that included both drives. NOT each drive rebuilt separately.
When you start the computer are you adding the drives in the same order each time? Start drive G wait for recognition and then start drive H. The computer will assign the letters each time based on the order they are plugged in/turned on.

Hoster will see any and every drive that Windows see's.

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Old September 14th, 2007, 01:14 AM
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Hi' Sam
he has his songs split on two drives,
so if he builds database on drive H, i believe that is the only songs Hoster will see.
and not the ones on drive G.
how do you build database on two ext drives at the same time?. Bob

Billyo, you should get one large ext drive and that will end your problem.
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Old September 14th, 2007, 07:54 AM
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Hi' Sam
he has his songs split on two drives,
so if he builds database on drive H, i believe that is the only songs Hoster will see.
and not the ones on drive G.
how do you build database on two ext drives at the same time?. Bob

Billyo, you should get one large ext drive and that will end your problem.
i have a bigger hardrive that is hooked up to my other laptop..and i have a lot of duplcates in it ..thats why i have those 2 other hardrives that i kinda sorted out without a lot of duplicates...
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Old September 14th, 2007, 07:59 AM
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I'm reading this a little differently than others are I think, so just to clarify: You have one 1 library split up on 2 ext drives. OR is it 2 separate libraries.
Was it 1 rebuild that included both drives. NOT each drive rebuilt separately.
When you start the computer are you adding the drives in the same order each time? Start drive G wait for recognition and then start drive H. The computer will assign the letters each time based on the order they are plugged in/turned on.

Hoster will see any and every drive that Windows see's.

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i rebuilt the hardrives separately, when i open hoster to rebuilt the database both hardrives are showing and im not sure of what you meant by 2 libraries..i rebuilt the g first and h second..
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Old September 14th, 2007, 02:57 PM
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i rebuilt the hardrives separately, when i open hoster to rebuilt the database both hardrives are showing and im not sure of what you meant by 2 libraries..i rebuilt the g first and h second..
If both HD's (and the folders the KMA's are in) are showing in the build database screen then you are rebuilding both at the same time. If G is listed first then Hoster will build that one and then begin working on H, and vice-versa . Had you rebuilt them separately, G would have been built and then when you built H, the database for G would have been wiped out, since each rebuild replaces the previous one, they are not cumalative.

By library I mean 1 set of all the songs you use in your gig, which according to Bob is what you have just split between 2 drives.

When you rebuild the database a little progress counter will pop
up and tell you how many records it found. Is that number accurate?

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Old September 14th, 2007, 04:30 PM
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If both HD's (and the folders the KMA's are in) are showing in the build database screen then you are rebuilding both at the same time. If G is listed first then Hoster will build that one and then begin working on H, and vice-versa . Had you rebuilt them separately, G would have been built and then when you built H, the database for G would have been wiped out, since each rebuild replaces the previous one, they are not cumalative.

By library I mean 1 set of all the songs you use in your gig, which according to Bob is what you have just split between 2 drives.

When you rebuild the database a little progress counter will pop
up and tell you how many records it found. Is that number accurate?

Sam
that's right 1 set of all the song split between 2 drives, what i was doing was,when i open up hoster to rebuild my database both drives will show, i'll select both drives delete it and then select just one drive G drive,again to start the process rebuilding the database..then progress bar starts and it shows the # of songs updated, the total # of songs updated is accurate , (total # of songs on both g & h drive.plus the # of duplicate songs ) ..do i have to delete both drives before rebuilding the database or just select 1 and leave the other.. thanks for your continous help..

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Old September 14th, 2007, 07:03 PM
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that's right 1 set of all the song split between 2 drives, what i was doing was,when i open up hoster to rebuild my database both drives will show, i'll select both drives delete it and then select just one drive G drive,again to start the process rebuilding the database..
Hmmm... I'm sorry but I'm still confused. Correct me If I'm wrong but it sounds like you are building 1 drive and then deleting it and adding the next drive, and building it.

If both drives (KMA locations) are accurately listed on the screen you should not delete anything. Just click "build database"
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then progress bar starts and it shows the # of songs updated, the total # of songs updated is accurate , (total # of songs on both g & h drive.plus the # of duplicate songs ) ..do i have to delete both drives before rebuilding the database or just select 1 and leave the other.. thanks for your continous help..
If both drives (any and all KMA locations) are showing in the rebuild screen and the # of records is accurate (which is just a way of determining if all the locations are correctly listed) - when the build is done all of your songs should be in the database.

If by "select" you mean highlight one drive (KMA location) or the other, it's not necessary. Hoster will build the database from both drives in the same order they are listed on the screen regardless of whether either of them are highlighted or not.

It also sounds like you are expecting the database to reside on the individual drives? Microstudio works this way but Hoster does not. Hoster creates a single database of all the KMA locations and places it at C:/Program files/Micro Technology Unlimited/Hoster/Databases/Songs.mdb. Any other Hoster computer will have to have it's own database built.

If my confusion is way out in left field feel free to ignore.

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Old September 15th, 2007, 11:02 AM
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Hmmm... I'm sorry but I'm still confused. Correct me If I'm wrong but it sounds like you are building 1 drive and then deleting it and adding the next drive, and building it.

If both drives (KMA locations) are accurately listed on the screen you should not delete anything. Just click "build database"


If both drives (any and all KMA locations) are showing in the rebuild screen and the # of records is accurate (which is just a way of determining if all the locations are correctly listed) - when the build is done all of your songs should be in the database.

If by "select" you mean highlight one drive (KMA location) or the other, it's not necessary. Hoster will build the database from both drives in the same order they are listed on the screen regardless of whether either of them are highlighted or not.

It also sounds like you are expecting the database to reside on the individual drives? Microstudio works this way but Hoster does not. Hoster creates a single database of all the KMA locations and places it at C:/Program files/Micro Technology Unlimited/Hoster/Databases/Songs.mdb. Any other Hoster computer will have to have it's own database built.

If my confusion is way out in left field feel free to ignore.

Sam
you are right thats exactly what i was doing..so when i'm
ready to rebuild my song base i dont have to delete or select anything just as long as both drives are showing on the rebuild screen..just click rebuild ?...i'll do that. (did my show last night and its kinda frustrating when someone hands you a song slip and just to find out that i cant play it even though i have it on my songbook.. ) again thanks for your help

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Old September 15th, 2007, 04:31 PM
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you are right thats exactly what i was doing..so when i'm
ready to rebuild my song base i dont have to delete or select anything just as long as both drives are showing on the rebuild screen..just click rebuild ?...i'll do that. (did my show last night and its kinda frustrating when someone hands you a song slip and just to find out that i cant play it even though i have it on my songbook.. ) again thanks for your help
Yep Just make sure any and all Kma locations (HD/Folder) are listed and click rebuild.

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Old September 15th, 2007, 10:13 PM
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What everyone is saying is... in the Tools menu, click the Build Songs Database command, then make sure you ADD both your G and H drives to the list.

When you build this, it will search and index KMA files on BOTH drives.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 11:25 PM
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What everyone is saying is... in the Tools menu, click the Build Songs Database command, then make sure you ADD both your G and H drives to the list.

When you build this, it will search and index KMA files on BOTH drives.
thanks for your responsed..i also did that and it went just fine..but when i searched a song i get an error msg." not in database..which i know was in one of the hardrives..but anyway i got it fixed.i did the merge kma file and it worked..thanks for everybody's help..
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Old September 15th, 2007, 11:27 PM
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Yep Just make sure any and all Kma locations (HD/Folder) are listed and click rebuild.

Sam
thanks for your continous help.i got it fixed..i did the merge kma files and it worked...again thank you
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You probably had duplicate bookIDs then. Glad it is working now.
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Old September 16th, 2007, 05:59 PM
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You probably had duplicate bookIDs then. Glad it is working now.
is that what causes my problem?.so if you have duplicate book id's and if you searched for a song even though it's in a hardrive hoster won't be able to find it ? thanks for the info..( i learn something new everyday )
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