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Old August 18th, 2007, 08:50 PM
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I thought kma and wma+g were exactly the same except for the added header information. I know kma's are based on wma audio so it should sound the same.

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Old August 18th, 2007, 08:54 PM
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That's what I figured by golly!! I mean it seemed just like what you said, both based on WMA
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Old August 18th, 2007, 11:42 PM
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The difference is kma has graphics embedded and wma doesn't so has an additional file.
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Old August 19th, 2007, 12:04 AM
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Dale it looks like you were correct.
This is from another thread where Lonman posed a similiar question about a year ago.
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There are 2 types of .kma files. The First is the ORIGINAL .kma file created by Hoster when you Import into Hoster directly from a CDG disk using Import CD Tracks. This file is a TRUE .kma file. The Audio is compressed using the .wma format, from Microsoft at whatever Compression rate you have set in Hoster. The graphics are then ripped and combined into this .kma file, so it is only ONE file, not 2.

The second is when you import a .zip or MP3+G file from the Hard drive. This file is then has the .kma file header wrapped around it. This indeed is the EXACT same as your Original .zip or MP3+G file, it just has the .kma file header wrapped around it. So this file is what you are explaining in your first post, but our TRUE .kma file is not.
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Old August 19th, 2007, 02:48 AM
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Dale it looks like you were correct.
This is from another thread where Lonman posed a similiar question about a year ago.


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Can someone add more clarity to this, I now am a bit confused?
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Old August 19th, 2007, 05:49 AM
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Can someone add more clarity to this, I now am a bit confused?
Thanx.
We're confused about your confused.

As a question and we can answer.

Jahern, as to WMA -vs- MP3 quality, at 192Kb rate, probably both will sound good. That's not much compression. At 128Kb, WMA will sound about the same as MP3 at 160Kb. So WMA can give you the same quaity at a higher compression ratio.

We are waiting for a bit more user feedback before doing Songverter 1.001 release. We will correc then BIN -> KMA naming error. We should have used the same naming convention throughout, but copying code pieces from other programs to do the same function, does ALL the functions the same. In this case, the Hoster naming of KMA files is different than Songverter. I'm sure that's how it happened.
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Old August 19th, 2007, 09:15 AM
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Clarifying My Question

I wasn't comparing wma and mp3. I'm assuming that KMA at 192 and WMA/cdg at 192 are exactly the same quality since they are based on wma, according to what I understand.

I believe that if I re-import all my discs to bin, then convert to WMA/cdg then my quality would be the same as to KMA. Then converting WMA/cdg to KMA later wouldn't pose any problem for quality loss.

Is that true?

I wasn't trying to put any heat or pressure on fixing the "BIN -> KMA naming error."

PS I haven't tested converting all formats to KMA, but WMA/CDG to KMA produces the same "naming error"

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