Re Upgrading Microstudio to 4.000

[George]

Originally Posted by George

There should ber no problem transfering the Microstudio installation file to another computer with a memory stick.

After copying the installation file to the MTU folder on the pc that is not on line, start the installation in the normal manner. you'll be prompted to insert a floppy disc or a memory stick. Follow the instructions which will include registering the product using the pc that is on line.

Sorry I forgot that part of it in my haste to get to church this morning. Realized it after I left

[NYTEHORSE7]

Thanks George. I just downloaded Microsudio 4.000 to both computers this afternoon. Both downloads went quite well. Only basic thing I have not tried is burning a disc, but I don't foresee any problems. Also have not tried recording yet but if I have any problems with any of the things I haven't tried, I will return to the forum for help. People like George, ddouglas and The Admin. unselfishly donate their time and knowledge to help us and really deserve appreciation from all of us for all their efforts. I offer my personal sincere "Thank You" to all.

Just "for the record", in case someone else has the same or similar questions that I had, I want to put a few comments, observations and suggestions in here that might help.

1. Installing 4.000 over 3.004 in my "internet" computer was a "piece of cake". Just follow the instructions. If you want to save your song files before installing 4.000 (as a safety precaution) move them to C: as pointed out by George in his post. However, do not use "copy and paste" or "send to" for all the files because you are using double the memory (I actually ran out of memory and had to change my method). I would suggest moving one song via one of the aforementioned methods to make sure your new folder "works". Then start using the "move to folder" option to move the files to your new folder. This will simply take them out of the file they are in and put them in your new file without doubling up memory use. Song transfer and using 4.000 browser to locate and get them into the program worked great on computer #1.

2. On computer #2, I did as planned and removed version 2.611 manually after moving my files from the "songlist" files to a new file on C: that I named "songs 4.000". I had my songs in folders ("country", 50's/60's" etc.) in the "songlist" file and had to open each folder individually and move the contents one group at a time to my new folder. Only problem I encountered was the "artist" information showed up in the 2.611 Microstudio window (when studio was open), but was not in the songlist file (???) , so when they were transferred to my new songs 4.000 file and ultimately shown in the new 4.000 list of songs, artist "Unknown" is shown on all songs.

Memory stick attempt to transfer additional songs from compter #1 to computer #2 was a failure. With over 27 GB of songs and a 2.0 GB memory stick there was no way and compressing was too slow to be an option.

Downloading and installing 4.000 via memory stick (internet computer to non internet computer) worked great !! Only advice: take your time & follow the instructions. (MTU did a great job with the instructions).

The only thing I noticed after completeion of 4.000 downloads to both computers was that on computer #1, the microphone is in the "on" postion when I open Microstudio while on computer #2 it is in the "off" position. This is by no means a problem or complaint, simply an observation. I don't think it should make any difference as the microphone can be manually turned on or off.

Again, my thanks to all for your help. I am looking forward to spending a lot of time using the new 4.000, by the way MTU, the "keyrite" and "vogone" are super additions to Microstudio. Great job on 4.000, keep up the good work Doug and the rest of the gang at MTU !! Your efforts are appreciated. I'll be checking the forum and welcome any questions or comments.
NYTEHORSE7 Jerry

[George]

Jerry,

Thanks for the kind words.

You might want to take a closer look at your memory. Reason I say that is I have never had a problem with memory when copying and pasting a songlist folder containing as much as 3/4 of a gig or so of files.

Matters not to me which method of transferring files someone else uses. That's not the point, but couldn't help wonder how much memory you're running on, and if there's plenty available, what's eating it up. Possible if the memory is on the lean side, or getting consumed somehow, you might encounter problems down the road. That's all I was thinking of.

As humongous as programs are getting, I feel at times I may be running a bit on the lean side with 512 mg, but having encountered no problems to date, see no reason to change at this point.

If ever forced to go to Vista due to no support for XP, mainly security upgrades, then the picture will probably change dramatically. It will take that to get me to change. I still prefer to own my computer, not Microsoft

Take care,

George

[NYTEHORSE7]

Thank you for your input re memory. I have 512 on both computer #1 and computer #2.

As I think about what you said, I'm wondering if I stated the situation I encountered incorrectly. Instead of running out of "memory" I think the warning I got was "low on hard drive" space. In the "heat of battle" while trying to get the songs moved and 4.000 installed, I think I had one of those "senior moments" you mentioned and replaced "low on disc space" with "low on memory" in my mind.

My total Microstudio song file size was 27.5GB. The total size of my C: drive is 108 GB. As it sets right now, I have 60 GB free space on C:. The 27.5 GB of songs for Microstudio make up a big part of the 48 GB of C: hard drive space I'm using. When I tried to "copy" the song files to the second location, I was actually trying to use another 27.5 GB of my C: hard drive space. That would have put my free hard drive space on C: down to 32.5 GB. If the computer said it was low on hard drive space and stopped my ability to continue copying, it must feel that somewhere just above 32.5 GB of free disc space is "too low". ???

I also have a D: "backup" shown which has 37.2 GB total and 37.1 GB free.

In discussing this, I'm in the "fog" of my knowledge re computers. Does what I said above sound right to you ?

Please don't think I was criticizing your suggestion of "copy and paste". I respect your suggestion and it sounded like the right way to go until I ran into the "out of space" situation. The "send to" option that I tried after the "copy and paste" seems to do the same thing as "copy and paste". So, next I tried the "move to" and everything went smooth.

Please give me your input on the above as I want to make sure this all makes sense and I have "got it right".

Thx George. NYTEHORSE7 Jerry

[George]

Hey Jerry, what counts is you got it done, and no I didn't take any offense, I just thought you might be light on memory, but apparantly that's not the case.

Seems like you had enough space, but when it comes to computers they have a mind of their own. I know I cuss mine once in awhile, but when you really think about it, what happens when you hit the on button is pretty amazing.

Take care,

George

[ddouglass]

Jerry are you sure that message didn't say Low on Virtual Memory? Either way, rule of thumb is if you are moving files within the same hard drive use the Move command and if you are moving files between two different hard drives then you should copy and paste and delete original location after you verify they arrived at destination ok. This will generally keep you out of trouble.

[NYTEHORSE7]

Hi guys. I appreciate your comments.


ddouglas, thanks for your comments and thoughts. I'm sure it wasn't a warning about virtual memory I received or it would have stuck clearly in my mind. I've occasionally dealt with the "low virtual memory" thing while working on my Yahoo website when something in my Yahoo Sitebuilder program "screws up" and drops the memory setting way down necessitating that I reset the virtual memory in the program back to 512. This song transfer warning was something new that I hadn't seen before and I am quite sure, in thinking back, that it said "low disc space". Thanks for asking tho' and I agree with your concensue regarding moving files.

George, "yes" the computer truly is an amazing thing. My 90 year old father says it is like "magic" and, from someone who started out in life without even electricity, I can understand his thoughts. Re my situation, As you said, the main thing is we "got 'er done" and I once again thank you and the other fine MTU members who have given me so much help. As I said, I'll be checking the forum periodically and will post if I have any problems. Thanks, Have a Great day.

NYTEHORSE7 Jerry