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Old February 6th, 2007, 09:20 AM
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Slowness is really funny, sort of happens randomly, but not very often anymore. And always with no other programs runnung. I do remember my g/f saying when it started; it was right after 3.312(or somewhere around there). It would get really bad at first too. Real slow redraw every time the search box was closed, either using "close" of the right corner "x" buttons.

I think we need more evidence of redraw, slowness, and precise conditions from others and maybe we can get this figured out.
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Old February 6th, 2007, 06:24 PM
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Never have seen it yet

I have not seen this slow redraw. I have used 3.312, 3.313 and just used 3.314 last weekend at a show.

I use a Radeon 9250 PCI 256mb vid card. I run an RCA cable from the back port on the video card to an RF Modulator to split out into COAX cables. Maybe it has to do with me runing through a powered RF Modulator. My vid settings are set at:

Primary Display 1280 by 1024
Secondary Display 1024 by 768 (connected through COAX)
Both run in True Color (32bit)
and then I extend my desktop to the secondary display which are the TV's

Even on 3.313 I never had a redraw issue and have not seen anything wrong in 3.314 yet either. Maybe it is how I run my connections and my vid card is not doing all the work.

An RF modulator is very cheep but you would need to have an RCA output (video out like on your VCR or DVD player) on your video card. I have never played with an S-Vid connection but looking at it they look to go from an s-vid output to s-vid input? I also use a desktop at all shows as well. I am also using win2k but I am unsure if that would make much of a difference.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 07:02 PM
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No one is referring to a slow redaw on the singers monitor...so rf modulators and such have nothing to do with it.

We are talking about Hoster's MAIN Screen having several issues WHEN a Song is PLAYING, which are:

1. When the SEARCH BOX is OPEN and the SEARCH BOX is positioned somewhere near the TOP where the SEARCH BOX covers some or ANY PART OF Hoster's CONTROL BUTTONS, and then, the SEARCH BOX is CLOSED, you will see Hoster's CONTROL BUTTONS SLOWLY REAPPEAR or "REDRAW." The CONTROL BUTTONS DO NOT Instantaneously appear, as with all versions PRIOR to v3.313.

2. If another program is OPEN and in front of Hoster, and that program is minimized so that Hoster becomes the program viewed, Hoster REAPPEARS SLOWLY as ALL the CONTROL BUTTONS start REDRAWING from left-to-right, instead of Instantaneously appearing.

3. If you click STOP, to stop a Playing Song, then, immediately click PLAY, to start a Song Playing, Hoster will freeze because Hoster doesn't seem to have time to react completely by turning the STATUS to READY before reacting to the PLAY command. Hoster just sits there...stuck.

Among other issues.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 08:06 PM
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And like I said... 3.313 and 3.314 neither of these versions have done this on my system. I am pointing out everything that is possibly different from my system to yours. However, your yelling in bold letters does not help your situation. How the powered RF modulator helps is that my video card is not pushing out more then it has to and I am not eating up video card resources powering multiple monitors from my card.

I have never had a problem with buttons not redrawing... I use SAMS2 Party DJ for my DJ program along with Hoster running as well. So yes i do go back and forth from them and i do use the search tool and after 5 hours of runing karaoke I have no problems. So if you are yelling at me for telling you that I have no problems and what could be different on how I run my system.
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Old February 8th, 2007, 12:13 PM
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I don't think he was yelling. I think the bold letters were to clarify the original "staying on task" items of the
post's contents. Sometimes posts will go around "Robin Hood's" barn and back again and get a little offtrack and become cloudy in trying to gather info for a very specific
problem or bug. I think he was getting back to being very specific, the bold letters actually helped me out and summed everything up quite nicely.
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Old February 9th, 2007, 11:00 AM
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Question Strobe lights are suppose to flash not program screens!

gd123, I sympathize with your dilema, I originally started this with the Flashing Screen thing, I thought 3.314 stopped it, but after using the playing a few disc all the way thru found out it is worse with 3.314 than 3.313, plus I cannot use my cd drive in the laptop that I could use in 3.313. So after doing updates, trying different discs and drives, I give up. I have a competitors program that I have not used because I like Hoster, but enough is enough it works fine. All my other stuff works fine so I don't think we should have to revamp our equipment for 1 program to work, that's unfortunate, but it seems like the last updates things keep gettimg worse. When the only program I have to open DXDIAG and leave open is Hoster to make it work, and still can't use the cd drive that worked before, what does that tell me! I really like Hoster but enough, all you MTU customers that try to help are wonderful, but it's not your job to fix it, and thank you all with your suggestions. Just my humble opinion.(Just a note: When Hoster came out, I had it one year and couldn't get it to work, had to buy an upgrade to make it work, then, thought all was well? Guess I was wrong. Too bad it's a great working program and I love it better than the others, when it works!)
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Old February 20th, 2007, 08:41 AM
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Smile Maybe this will help with some redraw problems!

On my laptop it appears that on versions 313,314,& 315 that the DirectDraw in DXDIAG becomes disabled. Just happened to go in again last night, noticed it, and changed to ENABLE, all redraw problems disappeared. In 3.312, it stays ENABLED. Maybe this will help some problems it did on mine. Still can't use laptop drive even though it says it should, audio but no video, but I'll live with that I guess.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 02:27 PM
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I don't think he was yelling. I think the bold letters were to clarify the original "staying on task" items of the
post's contents. Sometimes posts will go around "Robin Hood's" barn and back again and get a little offtrack and become cloudy in trying to gather info for a very specific
problem or bug. I think he was getting back to being very specific, the bold letters actually helped me out and summed everything up quite nicely.
He might not have but I was stressing on how I ran my video and that maybe that is the reason I was one of the only people not having this problem. Now thanks to TK I seen what was going on and yes it was a very simple fix of making sure directdraw was enabled on your systems. DirectDraw would be something no one would think would get disabled. We are all used to it being enabled. I also play madden on my computer so I would of noticed that DirectDraw was not working.... Most of you only use your laptop/desktop for your karaoke gigs I use mine for everything, internet, setting up gigs for weddings, making my books, making flyers, and playing Madden to keep sane lol.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 02:57 PM
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I wonder if Admin or Support or any others may comment on this fix.
Admin, I know you guys are busy with MS right now.
But, when you get to it, it would be nice to know if this is the Final fix?
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