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Old December 22nd, 2006, 04:58 PM
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Gduns and Ddouglass made a suggestion in the Beta Testers Forum that I think is the answer. My system was having no problems, and I changed my page file size and now I AM seeing the same problems you all are. When I changed it back, it is still exhibiting the slowness, so I'm signing off, rebooting and will test again. I suspect this requires rebooting after you change the setting.

Click Start > Settings > Control Panel > System (scroll down) > Advanced Tab > Performance section (click Settings button) > in Performance Options dialog, click Advanced > in Virtual Memory section, click Change button > Custom Size radio button > enter (this is a wild guess) 1.5x your total computer RAM in the first field and 3x in your second field > Click OK > OK > OK.

REBOOT YOUR COMPUTER before running Hoster again.
Page file should be set at least 5-10% of your hard drive space on your windows drive. So if you have a 120gig HD it should be a min of 12000 megs at 10% Windows will give you a max that you can not go over. At least in my Windows book from school (4 years old now) recomends that. I am running at almost 3gigs for my pagefile but I have a 120gig HD partitioned in 2-60gig drives.

The admin gave the instructions for Windows Xp I am sure.. because it was not the same way for windows 2000.

For a windows 2000 machine:
Click Start > Settings > Control Panel > System (scroll down) > Advanced Tab > Performance section (click performance options button) > Virtual Memory Section (Click Change... button) > You will then see a lit of your hard drives. Highlight your main windows drive > type in initial size to somewhere around 5% of your hard drive max space and in Maximum to somewhere around 10% of your max hard drive space > Click set button to the right of the two boxes. I set mine on a 60 gig drive to 2500MB and 4095MB (4095 was the most windows would allow me to set) > Click OK > Click Ok > Click Ok > Close and save all programs and then reboot... Really should not have to reboot but in Hosters sake I would to be safe to know that all settings have been changed.
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Old December 22nd, 2006, 05:33 PM
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Thanks Kilith. Actually, when I go to change it, Windows shows the recommended minimum, which I set it to, and tripple that for the "max" setting. I have an 80GB drive with 53GB free. I asked MTUSUPPORT (Bryan) and he has never set it to 10%, or even 5%, but more often to 2x the system RAM.

Now, here's the really wierd thing:

1. Before I changed my Virtual setting, Hoster was fast.

2. After I thought I changed it to the radio button to let Windows manage it, and didn't reboot, Hoster was slow and I could see what you folks were talking about. If I click & dragged the Singer's Display small window on my LCD computer screen, it left multiple images behind until I dropped it... like "mouse trails" does when it is enabled.

3. I reset the Virtual settings back to what it was before, and powered down to really be sure it was being changed. When Hoster ran again, it is STILL slow... it didn't speed back up!

4. I've reset it several times and powered down and back up, and it is STILL slow. Well, I've got this fact to give to our programmer early January when he can look at this.

I'll be interested to read what those of you who WERE SLOW might report after changing your Virtual page setting.
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Old December 22nd, 2006, 06:37 PM
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I set the custom page size to 4096, and the max size to 4096. If you set it to a variable or a difference it will slow down the system. You actually used to have this in the manual. and that is the way I have it on all of my machines except my big system.

I have had no redraw problems on any of the 4 systems I use.

On the AMb64 x2 4400 machine. I have no pagefile, and 3 gig of ram.

Sam, You may have to update those service pack 1 machines for 15-20 times to get all the updates up to service pack 2 I have had to do that before, and it is a pain.
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Old December 22nd, 2006, 07:23 PM
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I set the custom page size to 4096, and the max size to 4096. If you set it to a variable or a difference it will slow down the system. You actually used to have this in the manual. and that is the way I have it on all of my machines except my big system.
Changed Virtual Memory to FIXED 4096 X 4096.

No effect.

Same slow redraw that ADMIN verified in POST #5, which states:
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I only noticed a slow redraw when the Search dialog covered the Hoster control screen, and the slowness was only when a song was playing (i.e. the Preview window was active).
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Old December 26th, 2006, 10:48 AM
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I know they are going to ask and I am racking my brains trying to remember where that setting is...rack....rack....grind!!
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Click Start > Settings > Control Panel > System (scroll down) > Advanced Tab > Performance section (click Settings button) > in Performance Options dialog, click Advanced > in Virtual Memory section, click Change button > Custom Size radio button > enter (this is a wild guess, but Windows also gives a minimum recommended size) 1.5x your total computer RAM in the first field and 3x in your second field > Click OK > OK > OK.

REBOOT YOUR COMPUTER before running Hoster again.
Here is how to set the Virtual Memory page size.
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Old December 26th, 2006, 11:19 AM
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I was trying to remember how to clear it on shutdown. There is a setting in XP to force the computer to do that. Much slower shutdown but will clear out any thing left in pagefile to start fresh.
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Old January 5th, 2007, 04:00 PM
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Update. I too changed my virtual memory to the advised settings and it made no change to the "redraw" problem that several of us were having. I tried it on my older MTU laptop and on my new Dell. No difference in either computer.

This may be completely out in left field but I'm going to throw it out there to you "brains" to see if there is any relation.

As another past time; I play on line gaming. Mainly COD2 (Call of Duty-WWII) This game incorporated a program called Punk Buster. Utilized to make sure that one did not cheat. From time to time they would update this program. When the last update came out, MANY begun experiencing a "lag" issue in their video. This problem has gotten so bad many have given the game up for the time being.

What was and still is weird, is that it seems to have effected the newer more advance computers that are out there. I would say those that are at least 2- 2 1/2 years old. Computers older than that are not experiencing this problem. Curious about those of us who are having this "redraw" problem; How old is your computer. Are any of you with "older" computers experiencing anything. As I said, this is probably a stretch in thinking but video problems in both cases seem to be with newer end machines.

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Old January 5th, 2007, 06:04 PM
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Mine is a 1.5yo laptop w/WinXP-Pro we sold in 2005.

We know there is some form of memory leak in Hoster 3.313 and probaby prior. We are in the depths of a massive development upgrade right now (Microstudio 3.100 Beta 1 just got posted for testing), and we can't fix Hoster yet. We should be able to get to Hoster 3.314 next week. We were hoping to get more "factual" feedback, but this is one of those "what do you look for".

So Kelly, your post is appreciated, and as good a finger pointing as any other. I just don't know why reversing my Virtual Disc settings didn't revere the slowness. I was bragging that I didn't see the slowness, and now I stuck. Better be careful what I say in the future.
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