Hoster screen flashing on & off with 3.313

[kilith]

Even though I have not seen any of the problems everyone else is facing... I did roll back for the mean time to 3.312. I still have tried everything I could to produce the problems everyone else is having and I just can not repeat them (guess I am a one of the lucky ones ).

I could make it crash but I was doing it in a very mean way lol... I would play a song and then put Madden 07 back up over the top and that would crash Hoster lol however I know no one would be doing something like this at one of their shows (or at least I hope they would not rofl )

And yeah peeps upgrade to the new versions... push them to the limits you can and see what you can find wrong with them. Not every beta test can catch everything. They do not have every type of computer out there with all the different configs of sound cards, video cards, processors, windows configs, hard drives, and any other software/hardware you use in your computers. That is why it is VERY important to thoese who are having the problems find out your exact video card, sound card, processor, ect ect and post that in your posts... It has to be a hardware related problem that I know I can not create. You all could have NVIDIA cards and see we would not know that because you are not telling MTU. If you remember in a post in the past they had problems with some NVIDIA cards.

Bryant lol he just ment to skip ever .*13 version as in the number 13 is an unlucky number lol however it is one of my lucky numbers haha go figure I would have no problems with 3.313

With my post it does help the admins cause they see in my sig what type of computer I am running on and know that computer config it works

Later

[kilith]

Originally Posted by bill moore

to kilith this is the reason you do not see the problem that others see( i think)

P4 Prescott CPU 3.00ghz 800mhz fsb
3 - 512 DDR 2700 1.5gigs RAM

which is way over what mtu say's is the min to run hoster

That is very untrue since I see you do not read others posts. Some of these people have brand new Dell laptops running a Duo Core 2 Processor which are much faster then my processor. They also said they have 2 gigs of ram... that is more then I have and They are having the problems.

Originally Posted by bill moore

the reason they changed the code was to be able to run on slower system's, other video cards and to your other point about posting info most of the people that have the problem are long time user's so some wear along the way I am sure mtu has had there info

Ever think that computer can change or people do upgrade? Yes I know some of these people changed nothing but if you do not know what they have that others don't it makes the job that much harder.

Originally Posted by bill moore

and for me I have been in touch with the programmer on this problem and why should I post it again just so you can see what good is that going to do and have sent them kma's that are dealing with the other problem

It is nice you have been in contact... does not mean everyone else has been that has this problem.. You alone is not going to fix this problem it is going to be everyone's imput that is having the same problem. This post also was never directed at you either... it was directed to the whole forum.

Originally Posted by bill moore

so you telling us the same thing that admin just said is a waste of our time to read your post made it sound like you are a good little boy and the

good little boy? That is pretty offensive to be called a boy since I am a 30 year old man who has programming knowledge and computer knowledge and is trying to help point people in the right direction. The admin only said they needed more information from everyone... he never did state what type of info. People just kept repeating over and over what they were experincing and nothing more.

Originally Posted by bill moore

rest of us are stupid !!!!

If I am making others feel stupid then I am sorry... I do not think my posts did that... You seem to be the only offended person... So what are you saying? No I did not tell you what the admin said I went more in depth to help people that might not understand what they might be looking for. Ever call a computer tech line? They make you feel stupid because they are suposed to treat everyone the same... as if that person on the other side of the line knows nothing about computers.

Originally Posted by bill moore

just because you don't see it in the open forum does not mean is has not been sent in other ways.

I guess no I would not know if it was sent in other ways... I can only see what is in the forums... If it has been sent in other ways then that is a good thing... but since you do not know if it has been or not and you want the problem fixed you should be trying to help push people in the right direction as well.

Originally Posted by bill moore

admin sorry for the post but we dont need some one telling us why there post is better then ours when they dont know all the facts

Never said it was better then yours. I only stated that the admin knows it works on my type of machine however if it is better no it is not... someone who actually has the problem posting what I have would be better... I just rule out one type of computer and nothing more. I might be new to the forums but I am experienced in programming and also have a degree in computer infromation systems.

I only see the people complaining and not helping. They say the same things over and over and then I see the admin say the same thing over and over. Yes it does seem some people do not get it. Just because they can run Hoster at a karaoke gig does not mean that they are good at what their computer has in it. It is easy to hook up your computer to the internet and download/install a program... that does not mean they know what they have in their machines. The admin was not specific what should be put in the posts... I just suggested what some of the people should post (that do not have the privilege to be in the close forums like you do)

I was explaining more in depth on what might help out the admins. Sorry, if you are in direct contact with them... does not mean the others are. Did I ever say my post was better then yours? No I said

With my post it does help the admins cause they see in my sig what type of computer I am running on and know that computer config works

I said it helps more then someone just saying they have a 256meg video card and 1 gig of ram... knowing what type (NVIDIA, ATI) helps knowing how much ram it has does not unless they know the brand.. however Hoster does not require high end graphics cards...

[mindonstrike]

First and foremost Mr. Moore this would have been a good place to start
Information To Give MTU When Requesting Help

Originally Posted by bill moore

to kilith this is the reason you do not see the problem that others see( i think)

P4 Prescott CPU 3.00ghz 800mhz fsb
3 - 512 DDR 2700 1.5gigs RAM

which is way over what mtu say's is the min to run hoster

the reason they changed the code was to be able to run on slower system's/other video cards

and to your other point about posting info most of the people that have the problem are long time user's/ so some wear along the way I am sure mtu has had there info MTU doesn't keep any records concerning anyones computer system

and for me I have been in touch with the programmer on this problem and why should I post it again just so you can see Because someone with some experience might spot a pattern and suggest a course of action - it wouldn't be the first time
what good is that going to do
and have sent them kma's that are dealing with the other problem

so you telling us the same thing that admin just said is a waste of our time to read your post made it sound like you are a good little boy and the It looked more to me that Killith was expanding on Admins request for more info, not just repeat it. And besides if you didn't care for his post you could have ignored it instead of creating one as long just to say you don't like it
rest of us are stupid !!!!

just because you don't see it in the open forum does not mean is has not been sent in other ways

admin sorry for the post but we dont need some one telling us why there post is better then ours when they dont know all the facts

Per Admins request for information I'm gathering information on my 4 computers from DXDIAG and hope to post them shortly.

Sam

[bryant]

Originally Posted by bill moore

just because you don't see it in the open forum does not mean is has not been sent in other ways

admin sorry for the post but we dont need some one telling us why there post is better then ours when they dont know all the facts

happy xmass to all

That's exactly what you're doing, in fact, so am I.
But I'll stop now as well.

[TKaraoke]

gduns, I'm running service pack 2 on two computers, still have probelm.
TKaraoke

[gduns - with the Lord]

Just for the heck of it post you dxdiag file, and lets see if we can see anything obvious.

[kilith]

Here is my DXDIAG. Not sure if that will help to compare mind on strikes DXDIAG to mine to see what could cause the problem. I thought it might help however.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/22/2006, 11:36:22
Machine name: KILITH_MPV
Operating System: Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195) Service Pack 4
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
BIOS: BIOS Date: 06/01/05 16:14:47 Ver: 08.00.09
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 1502MB RAM
Page File: 528MB used, 2866MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINNT
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0904 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The file ati2dvag.dll is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.
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Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON 9250
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 9200 Series (0x5960)
DAC type: Internal DAC(500MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5960&SUBSYS_20021002&REV_01
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (70Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6467 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 6/30/2004 12:47:52, 208384 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 6/30/2004 12:47:34, 767488 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-1A20-11CF-F16A-0800A0C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x5960
SubSys ID: 0x20021002
Revision ID: 0x0001
Revision ID: 0x0001
Video Accel:
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Not Available
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

[admin]

Now we're getting somewhere. Thanks Mindonstrike and Gduns for getting folks info that they can use, instead of my just asking for info. To run Dxdiag:

Click the START menu

Left click RUN

Type in DXDIAG, and click OK.

At the bottom, click the "Save All Information" button, and remember where you save it.

Exit Dxdiag.

Using Windows Explore, find the saved DxDiag.txt file and double click it to open it in Notepad (or whatever your .txt is assigned to open with), or right click it and choose "Open With >" and select Notepad.

Copy all the text and paste it in a post in this Thread. You can edit out any private data you don't want seen before clicking the Submit button.

[admin]

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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/22/2006, 14:36:25
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 1022MB RAM
Page File: 376MB used, 2087MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9700 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9700 AGP (0x4E50)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E50&SUBSYS_05141558&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Default Monitor
Monitor Max Res:
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6505 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/1/2004 00:13:42, 222208 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 12/1/2004 00:13:20, 928256 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D10-11CF-816F-1E25A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4E50
SubSys ID: 0x05141558
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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Description: Realtek AC97 Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_7012&SUBSYS_04801558&REV_A0
Manufacturer ID: 65535
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5510 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 7/17/2003 12:16:36, 611820 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

Description: Modem #2 Line Playback (emulated)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID:
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 81
Type: Emulated
Driver Name:
Driver Version:
Driver Attributes:
WHQL Logo'd:
Date and Size:
Other Files:
Driver Provider:
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: n/a
Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
Realtek AC97 Audio, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: Not run

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1039, 0x7001
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/4/2004 07:00:00, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/4/2004 07:00:00, 4736 bytes
|
+-+ USB Human Interface Device
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC03D
| | Location: USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
| | Matching Device ID: usb\class_03&subclass_01
| | Service: HidUsb
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 8/4/2004 07:00:00, 36224 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 8/4/2004 07:00:00, 24960 bytes
| | Driver: hid.dll, 8/4/2004 07:00:00, 20992 bytes
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 8/17/2001 13:02:20, 9600 bytes
| |
| +-+ HID-compliant mouse
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC03D
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| | | Service: mouhid
| | | Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 07:00:00, 23040 bytes
| | | Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/17/2001 12:48:00, 12160 bytes

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PS/2 Devices
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+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/4/2004 07:00:00, 52736 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 07:00:00, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 03:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 07:00:00, 24576 bytes
|
+ Alps Pointing-device
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Upper Filters: ApfiltrService
| Service: i8042prt
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 03:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 07:00:00, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 55.1 GB
Total Space: 76.3 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: TOSHIBA MK8026GAX

Drive: D:
Model: TOSHIBA CDW/DVD SD-R2612
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:00:00, 49536 bytes