When will Hoster 3.1 release?

[admin]

Originally Posted by SabreT

"In order to avoid dozens of questions about release dates, do not post the release until it is D-O-N-E" I mean, what's the point? Of course it's nice to see what is being considered for future releases. That is whay they have a wish list area. To me, it's like saying to someone "I'll meet you at 7:30" then not turning up until 9:30 because you decided the shoes you had on did not feel right. It's bad manners. As professional DJ's if we made promises even half baked ones to our customers......

I totally agree, do not put the product out before it's ready, no one wants that. But don't say it will be out by X when it won't. And the 15th April is not the first date posted for the release of this update remember.

You are mistaken. We DO NOT say when "it will be out".

Our News page clearly states WISH? for our current best estimate.

Software development companies preannounce their products. It is a way of life. It lets users know "We have heard you". Look at Microsoft.......

I'm surprised you'd compare software PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT to a SERVICE such as DJ/KJ. If you look at our sales side, which is a "service" function, we deliver when we say.

Consider this example... If you were to dream up a totally new way to provide music to users in a group environment, and you said you could have it all worked out and duplicatable within 2 months, then someone says to you "Will you be able to handle this, and what about that"... you can accomodate or ignore them... now or later. Of course, if you don't enjoy product development with all its stresses and unknowns, then you would never entertain MODIFYING your dream, and eventually someone else would improve on your idea and... you're out of business if you were selling your idea.

When we "open the code" to create a new release, we CAN add some "this and that" features. If you have followed us very long, you know we are EXTREMELY responsive to our users. Some things take longer than others and sometimes you are well into it before you know which it will be.

In the case of Hoster 3.10x, our talented and capable Beta Testers kept drilling us to change a MAJOR function that was already coded and working. They wanted us to dream up a new way to make it easier to use. I kept saying... NO... No... no... finally YES. That cost us another 2 weeks, decided the week before April 15th when we were close to release. The product will now be easier to use as a result.

That's comparing software DEVELOPMENT with DJ Development.

[Party of one]

I'm on the fence with this one. I get frustrated with the release time also but............ you must understand that we like this product so much that we can't wait to get on hands on the newest car in the lot. It's that I use my hoster everyday for my enjoyment as well. It's great that we like this product sooooo much that we tend to voice are opion. If we didn't care there would be no hoster. So I think that's where the rub is. It's are interest that fuels new upgrade from hoster. Just one party of one Opion.

[Digital Party]

Well said Admin!!!!

[Kobesdad]

I Think SabreT makes a Valid point.To Me It's Not about comparing software development to DJ-Development.It's about business development.I have followed MTU for a long time.I first purchased a Plextor Drive and Microstudio.Then Purchased Karaoke Suite 4.Then most recently Hoster.
First of all the wish date was not always called the wish date.Obviously a response to the aggrivation arising from products not being released remotely close to when they were scheduled.I have been waiting for over 1 full year for the Duet Function of KHPro. which was foretold back when it was calle dKaraoke Home Producer.
I also think that the link from my Hoster Program to "Check MTU Site" Should not bring me to a page which says that Hoster 3.1 was released on April 15th, when it was not the case.To this Day 2 full weeks later the page still says that it was released on april 15th. In a previos response from the admin. We are looking forward to releasing Hoster 3.1 next week. Well to me just another misleading statement. If you are going to just continue to guesstimate perhaps you should over guesstimate so we don't feel like we are being mis-informed.

Of Course this is just my opinion but don't take it personal.I just feel that if it were not for the fact that your product was so strong, I would have taken my business elsewhere a long long time ago.

[Kobesdad]

I apologize it has only been 1 week but when we look forward to an upgrade especially one that will save us some cd's we think it feels like two

[George]

Originally Posted by admin

Software development companies preannounce their products. It is a way of life. It lets users know "We have heard you".

If I may add a bit to that, MTU is very unique in that they provide at great expense, an open forum for it's customers to vent their frustrations in such matters.

I hope you guys realize that every minute spent reading and answering these needless questions is a minute spent away from getting the product out to us, and/or providing needed support to other customers.

George

[Kobesdad]

George,
Perhaps you feel the questions are needless.However MTU does not or as you stated this forum would not exist.
Do'nt forget a suggestion was made to alleviate there time well spent by delivering on a timely basis.It's very simple yet made out to be very complicated.If it's not ready.Don't drag us along.
I can't believe that anyone would not agree that the Buy Hoster Now! Page on MTU's Web Site Should NOT NOT say That the producy has been released. And if you don't think that waiting over a Year for something that is supposedly coming out next month, no next month, no next month, no next month....... would not frustrate your customer base then some one is missing the very simple point.

[George]

Originally Posted by Kobesdad

And if you don't think that waiting over a Year for something that is supposedly coming out next month, no next month, no next month, no next month....... would not frustrate your customer base then some one is missing the very simple point.

Waiting over a year for a release ???

Version 3.006 was released on 1/28/05, only 3 months ago.

Version 3.005 was released on 1/24/05

version 3.000 was released on 12/08/04

Version 2.219 was released on 10/20/04

Version 2.215 was realeaed on 9/8/04

etc, etc, etc

[bjswaim]

I usually don't get involved with threads that are a forum for whinning, because I neither have the time for it nor do I want to promote it, however I think I'll say my peace on this one.

I don't think any of us who use Hoster have anything to whin about. It is the most efficient karaoke hosting software on the market. MTU listens, and has always listened to it's customers (us) concerning the software, doing their best to make it a tool that truly helps us in our endeavors to be the best at what we do. I, for one, would much rather wait (even a year) for an upgrade to make sure there were as few bugs as possible for me to deal with. I guarantee that if 3.1 was released before it was ready, the same people (you know who you are) who are whinning now about the delay in releasing it, would be creating threads to whin and complain that it doesn't work correctly or that they're having all kinds of problems. All I can say is, Be Patient. Version 3.1 will be released and it will be a thoroughly tested upgrade and worth our wait.

MTU.....I, for one, appreciate you making sure each version you release is the best it can be, to your knowledge, when it is released. Keep up the good work!!!

[djmadmaxx]

This is the best karaoke software and i don't think most people understand what happens when they create a new version or add features. So many things can happen by adding or altering code and it takes a while to accuratly test what these features do and how they can affect other features. Not to mention, it's very expensive. The new version will be out when it meets the fine standards that we know and respect from MTU.

[micbob4]

See thread below it indicates that 3.108 will be released Monday. But remember as with all there releases it will only happen if the product is 100%.


http://forum.mtu.com/showthread.php?t=3344&page=4

[Kobesdad]

Originally Posted by George

Waiting over a year for a release ???

Version 3.006 was released on 1/28/05, only 3 months ago.

Version 3.005 was released on 1/24/05

version 3.000 was released on 12/08/04

Version 2.219 was released on 10/20/04

Version 2.215 was realeaed on 9/8/04

etc, etc, etc

George,
If you followed the whole post you would see I was speaking of Duet Capability on KHpro. Although this is Hoster Forum it still speaks to the issue of being strung along.I assure you they expected to release this month after month and finally went with TBA. Abd it was over 1 year ago.If you look at the date I became a member and realize that this is the first time I have posted anything I think it is clear that 3 years of checking and checking and checking finally took it's toll.I am done wasting my time with this one MTU knows where they are and what is truth and what is not. It is clear that they have been adjusting to try to have less and less of these issues.

[George]

Kobesdad:

My apologies.

I assumed (bad word) your post that I quoted was dealing with Hoster.

George

[MTUSUPPORT]

If everyone wants to know, it should be OUT next week. Friday the 29th at the very latest.

MTUSUPPORT NOTE: I originally put the 22nd, which is Today, sorry. This was incorrect.

This is my new date to give you, but it might also be before that.

[Kobesdad]

Originally Posted by George

I hope you guys realize that every minute spent reading and answering these needless questions is a minute spent away from getting the product out to us, and/or providing needed support to other customers.

George

If this is indeed the truth.That they can't provide support to others and handle the forum then they are understaffed. If you can't stand the heat.....

[SabreT]

I take on board what you say. I'll come back in a few months from now to see where we are at.

[Saddle Tramp]

The Release of Hoster 3.100 IS Stated as being April 15th Follow this Link and the page States " Released April 15th 2005" http://www.mtu.com/upgrades/hoster/hoster3100.htm

[Party of one]

You may not be as happy as you think. You have to redo your books.

[admin]

Hoster 3.108 WILL release on Monday by 5:00PM EST.

You can click your download links and get it for free if you own any 3.0 version.

[admin]

Originally Posted by Party of one

You may not be as happy as you think. You have to redo your books.

You do not have Hoster 3.108! If you did, you'd KNOW that your existing song books WILL work.

It never ceases to amaze me why some people post statements as facts when they have no knowlege of the subject. That is NOT the way to gain credibility in our forums.

I have made a lengthy post elsewhere addressing how we need to make changes in the near future to more fully support the MP3G and ZIP format files, and allow renumbering of duplicate BookIDs... which is an often requested feature. Even then, our intent is to retain existing Song Books wherever possible.