Can I transfer KMA files?

[jimbo]

Yes, I do see that. I hope you didn't take my post as offensive, because is was not meant to be. I just wanted to get some things off my chest and maybe help some people understand what goes into making a CDG.

Did they even give notice it wouldn't be CDG? If not, then that is bad on Pocket Songs part.

Maybe there were enough requests for them to do it and then later they found out they couldn't do the lyrics. So why waste the money. At least the song is available for those that know how to CDG their own or those that know the song by heart and don't need lyrics.

No attack here:
But then once you CDG it, are you breaking any laws? If they can't do it, can you legally do it?

And then there's all the websites out there that have lyrics printed. Are they breaking the laws as well?

I'm just trying to be controversial and taking the side of the writers.

Jimbo

[bobcox- with the Lord]

I am at this time getting ready to do battle with a KJ/DJ who has 4000 karaoke songs in mp3+g format and 5000 or so mp3s for DJ he down loaded and he does not have the disc for. he used to work for me, till about 2yrs ago. then he quit and went into bus for himself, alot of the karaoke he stole from me, this i know to be true. he also let another dj copy my karaoke disc i did not bother him. till now. he is trying to steal one of my reg jobs. this is what can happen, kinda like running two syst off of one disc. also if i am reading the warning on disc right, we dont even have the right to play them in puplic. just my 2 cents. Bob

[tiggallen]

i think we do have the right to play them in public as long as ascap and bmi are getting paid

[mikedomi]

you guys keep banging your heads on the wall over this
karaoke is what it is
there is to much gary law here and untill the laws are written
to cover this all the way down the line
nothing is going to change

and to tell you the truth i dont think its going to change any time soon
there are a lot of people making money here

from hard wear to softwear and no one really wants to rock the boat
the clubs and if they start pointing fingers it is just going to go in one big
go around

look even the studios are in this i know of some who are selling the org tracks
mins the lead singers and there making money there
(how many times have you said this sounds like the real thing)

there are people selling the same arangment to 3 and 4 diff karaoke companys
you can find the same track on 5 diff companys
so dont think this is and all up and up thing here
its not !!!
they are all shafting it to each other

look i say just go and do you thing the best you can
try to do what you think is right
and let the chips fall were they may

and if you are really worried about breaking the law
get out of dj/kj
because if you listen to all sides each one will tell you something diff

WHOS RIGHT WHOS WRONG?????
UNTILL A JUDGE TELL US DIFF I AM RIGHT (GET MY POINT)

ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY

[tiggallen]

you just said a mouthful there i couldn't agree more

[quaizywabbit]

I think they get around the lyric lisc. by changing a few key words here and there.....

[admin]

Originally Posted by BEAVIS

you should be able to buy the rights to a second copy of a cd-g at 1/2 the cost and not recieve the actual cd-g.

in short, the rights to use one cd-g and use it on 2 computers !

Anything else you'd like in your perfect world?

[admin]

Originally Posted by jimbo

OK, here goes a can of worms!!!!!!!

Some publisher/writers contend with each song there also needs to be "sync" license, because the lyrics are being "synced" up with video. In the motion picture industry this is very common. When a movie uses a song they must pay this "sync" license. From what I understand, the fee on the sync license is variable, depending on the type of movie, the expected revenue, etc.

This is where my question comes in. How can some companys sell music so cheap when the licenses they are to pay costs more or extremely close to what they are selling the disc for? Where do their production costs factor in as well? Those are the companys that aren't paying the proper licensing. Does that make those discs you buy from these companies illegal? The proper fees haven't been paid.

Some manufacturers contend they don't have to pay reprint fees because they lyrics aren't actually printed. Do you think the lyrics are printed? If the lyrics aren't printed, how are you able to read them on the screen. The lyrics are printed in some form or another because they are on the CD digitally. Some writers contend that everytime the song is played on CDG they should get their fair share because each time it is being played it is getting "printed" on the TV screen for "X" number of people to see and read.
I can just see it now, we're going to have to keep track of every song we play and send money to each writer when that song is played.

Second question: Are there any karaoke companies out there that have not shafted the public or writers?
Jimbo

Basically I agree with you here. September 2003, seven of the MAJOR Karaoke Producers, including Sound Choice and Chartbusters, were sued for never having paid the sync licenses. There are a whole bunch of other suits that have been filed by other Publishers who own the lyrics.

As I understand it, if the lyrics are displayed, they are "printed". However, I don't see any way to accrue a fee for every time a song is played.

Who pays the sync licenses? Karaoke Bay (absolutely straight-laced lads!!!), Priddis, StarDisc.

Sweet Georgia Brown is so illegal that the owner lives in a Winabego and travels all the time. He is a hunted man! He sells LOTs of his discs on EBAY.

The typical royalties I have heard are:

1. Mechanical duplication rights to the music (compulsary or agreed to) - For a 3-4 minute song is $0.07. For longer songs it goes up about a cent a minute.

2. Sync license - I have heard $0.17 to $0.20. When you look at the CAVS SCDG discs, you're getting the Chartbusters Essential 450 for about $0.38 per song. That doesn't add up either. But then CAVS is Korean so its International Law to go after them.

If you buy a CDG disc in good faith, you are not guilty. The Producer may be though, but that's their problem, not yours!

[jimbo]

Sorry quaizywabbit, but that doesn't do it. Example. Take a copyrighted work, say a book like Harry Potter, and change a few words, like names or places, and try to sell it legally.

[Beavis]

Originally Posted by admin

Anything else you'd like in your perfect world?

yeah strippers to wait on me hand and foot !!! and i aint talking about paint strippers!

[quaizywabbit]

not sayin' they'd get away with changing some of the words around.....
but a large amount of karaoke songs DO NOT use the exact lyrics as recorded by the original artist. Perhaps it's due to poor listening skills.....
but I doubt it.

[illusivity]

Ok-- so what was the answer to his original question??

Can the files (KMA or whatever) be transfered onto a new hard drive? I also have a several sets (4) of original disks (the same brand and number of originals), 2 of the sets are nearly identical originals. 1 is on a CAVS JB 99.

If I buy another computer and software program from MTU-- can I copy the already loaded songs and delete and/or add the differences from the original disks?

[George]

The question was answered on the first page, posts numbers 2 and 3 of this same thread.

[MTUSUPPORT]

Illusivity,
The Quick answer is Yes.