Very slow "reading" in duplicating mode

[jdefino]

A month ago I copied my origional DK discs to have a back up.. everything worked well. But now when I try to make another copy, the program "bogs" down.. it seems to run, but takes almost an hour to load the tracks. then when I burn the disc the graphics are garbled and unreadable. I took a new disc purchased last week (Top Hits Monthly..) it copied fine.. no problems. Then tried the DK's again.. Still won't copy? I'm stumped.

I have The MTU Suite, running on Windows XP Professional. With a Plextor 48/24/48A...

Any Ideas?

[jdefino]

Additional info:

I took the 5.6 upgrade and updated the ASPI as suggested in other threads.. No difference.

I also have the GoldenHawk program... it has ceased working also?

Last night I tried several older SoundChoice discs.. same results.

I only seem to be able to copy new discs.

The compilation feature does work. I can upload random tracks and burn a compilation disc successfully. However, if I select ALL tracks.. it goes back into "slow motion"..?

[mlepine]

Are your disk clean? They need to look like if they were new or else with finger prints or scratchs it will slow down the reading & will also break the graphic.

Regards

[MTUSUPPORT]

Are you copying the Copies, instead of the Original discs? This will slow it down considerably.

[jdefino]

The DK "copies" have never been used, so they are like new.. The SoundChoice discs are older and quite used. The results are the same. Only brand new.. straight out of the store discs seem to be able to be duplicated. When I first got this program it would copy ANY disc, It worked great.. I just don't understand why it won't now?

I'm not blaming the MTU program.. As I stated earlier, my GoldenHawk program is having the same problem? I haven't made any alterations or adjustments that I can remember...
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I've copied "copies" before successfully.. Why not now?
It's not just "slow" ...the end product is unusable.

Thanks for your responses.

[MTUSUPPORT]

Jdefino,
When you copy a copy, and then copy it again, and again and again. It finally gets to the point where it will cause it to get Slower and Slower with the reading process. I am not sure why exactly, I just know that it will happen.

Try going back to your Originals and make another copy, then copy that, then copy that, then copy it again, and again. Watch the difference in how long it begins to take, when you get to the later copies.

It will really slow down, and you will beable to record the time down so that you know how much it will slow down after each copy.

[mlepine]

I tought in digital it didn't matter how many times you copied?

The only thing I heard was after the 100 copy (copying from the copy) that you would loose the quality!

Data stored on a CDR is digital not analog like old tapes.

Sorry, but I have my doughts on MTUSUPPORT's comment!!!

[jdefino]

Thank You for your comments mlepine.. and I agree.. This was also my understanding...

However... MTUModerator....
I see what you are saying.. but the discs I'm refering to are only second generation "copies".

I can compile a disc from these same "copies", but I can't duplicate them? That is what I'm not understanding...

The "Sound Choice Discs I'n trying to duplicate ARE origionals... admittedly they aren't in the best shape.. There are scratches... but Only one out of thirteen will duplicate?

[gduns - with the Lord]

well,
try to understand this. the original disk is not burned. it is die created. the a silver foil os bonded to it and a label is sprayed on.

that is not the same as reading a created disk, and burning it. With every burn, the burn gets shallower in the media. to the point it is so shallow it is unreadable.

If you cant read it, you cant write it. the microstudio tries to read even the most unintelligable marks on the disk, and duplicate it.

you will notice with each later generation copy, the read speed slows down. that is because it is harder to read & correct.

MTU is not in the businness of propagating illegal copying. You are supposed to make a "BACKUP" to use, and keep the original safe. I take it you dont have the original, therfore you are making Illegal burns. If MTU condones this they then are conspiring to piracy, and I don't think this is their intention.

If this is what you intend to do with the software, then I suggest you re-read the license agreement. It states that this program is to be used for archival purposes only.

I don't work for MTU, BUt I do read the license agreement, and know the fair use laws.

[bobcox- with the Lord]

Bravo, Gduns

[MTUSUPPORT]

Mlepine,
I would have thought the same thing as you did. But you can actually Test it and it will happen. This is what I was making my post from, Experience. Try it. You like to figure stuff out, so give it a shot, then you will have the proof for yourself.


Gduns Nailed it on the head on this one also. This is exactly how they create the master discs.

[jdefino]

Gduns:
Although, I appreciate your detailed explaination, your assumption of "illegal" practices is WAY off base. I DO own the origionals. They are just stored quite a distance from where I am currently residing.
When I go out singing I like to take my own "compilation disc" So I can sing the songs I prefer in the style I prefer. It's just easier to go to my disc book rather than searching through stacks of discs. NOT mass-produce "bookleg" discs. I've never had any problems before.. Hence, my query here.

Your answer has shed light on the possible problem.