Hoster 5.04 Bug Reports

[kod]

I downloaded Hoster 5.04.10 today (Sunday 10/2) and now I'm having problems with it freezing and crashing when I use my Instabuttons.

I have ~50 Instabuttons set up and I frequently press them back to back to go from one sound effect to the other.

I did this several times Saturday night without any problems with 5.04.09 and have not had this problem before!

And... everytime I open Hoster, the screen is minimized and I have to maximize it.

Is anyone else having problems?

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by kod

I downloaded Hoster 5.04.10 today (Sunday 10/2) and now I'm having problems with it freezing and crashing when I use my Instabuttons.

I have ~50 Instabuttons set up and I frequently press them back to back to go from one sound effect to the other.

I did this several times Saturday night without any problems with 5.04.09 and have not had this problem before!

And... everytime I open Hoster, the screen is minimized and I have to maximize it.

Is anyone else having problems?

Do you mean Saturday with 5.03.09 not 5.04.
With your instabuttons, are some of them .wav files ?
I encountered problems with wave files that played in the earlier versions, I ended up converting my .wav files to mp3.
If you open the Tools/Instabuttons dialog look down the Dur column and see if any are showing 00.01 or less then check if they are a .wav format, If so I think these are the culprits, try unchecking them so they don't play and see if Hoster still crashes. If this cures it change them to mp3.

When you say the screen is minimized, are you referring to Hosters main dialog or the singers screen ?
If you mean it's main dialog try this: Right click the Hoster Icon select properties then select the shortcut tab, in the box next to "run" from the drop down arrow select "NormalWindow" then Apply and OK.

[jerst]

I accicentally updated to 5.4 right before a show, which I never do. WHen opened up Hoster after the computer re-booted, the second lyrics screen that would generally pop up and land somewhere in the middle of the screen, didn't come up. We tried everything thinking that the video settings were off or something. Nothing worked. A friend of mine not familiar with the program went into show display settings and clicked on a box he said something like
"dock or un-dock lyrics screen" what this did was to allow us to pull the small screen that usually stays in the top left corner over to the second monitor and re-size it. A major pain in the butt.

Also the search function was affected. Let's say I put in "Pat Benatar" nothing would come up. If I typed in "Pat" or "Benatar" I could find it. What's up with that?

I uninstalled it and went back to 5.02

[kod]

Roy,

Sorry, you're right, it was 5.03.09...

All of my Instabuttons are mp3's.

Hoster's main dialog screen was minimized but now it's stopped doing that. It opens full as it should now and I didn't change anything.

And now the Instabuttons work as they should. I just now clicked on 10 in a row without any problems. Go figure!!!

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by kod

Roy,

Sorry, you're right, it was 5.03.09...

All of my Instabuttons are mp3's.

Hoster's main dialog screen was minimized but now it's stopped doing that. It opens full as it should now and I didn't change anything.

And now the Instabuttons work as they should. I just now clicked on 10 in a row without any problems. Go figure!!!

Gremlins....gotta love em... Glad it is working ok now.

[Wayne White]

I have always maintained my own database without any problems. In the 'old days' I corrected song names & artists within the database after importing them as '1' in the name & pasting the names in from Excel after the fact since I could not paste all of them at once while importing.

So 1 problem with 5.04 requiring to rebuild my database to work it; is putting 1 in for the name and artist on a # of songs. This I can live with because I could easily fix them if not for problem # 2.

The second problem is; 3/4 of my BookIDs are wrong in the new database - I realized that they didn't match while attempting to fix problem # 1. I did a match of the 2 files by BookID and only 1/4 of my songs still have the same BookID.

Since I see no mention of this, I guess I must be the only one it happened to.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Wayne White

I have always maintained my own database without any problems. In the 'old days' I corrected song names & artists within the database after importing them as '1' in the name & pasting the names in from Excel after the fact since I could not paste all of them at once while importing.

So 1 problem with 5.04 requiring to rebuild my database to work it; is putting 1 in for the name and artist on a # of songs. This I can live with because I could easily fix them if not for problem # 2.

The second problem is; 3/4 of my BookIDs are wrong in the new database - I realized that they didn't match while attempting to fix problem # 1. I did a match of the 2 files by BookID and only 1/4 of my songs still have the same BookID.

Since I see no mention of this, I guess I must be the only one it happened to.

Are you referring to the rebuild when you initially opened this version? If so did you let it run to completion? All of the beta testers did this same rebuild and did not have any problems with it. In fact we all did this several times over, during the various steps of testing going back to a previously saved copy of the database to make sure each time it ran correctly with no changing of BookIDs.
When you did the pasting from Excel did you do this in the Edit utility of Hoster?
What version did you upgrade from?
Can you give us some examples of BookIDs that changed?

[admin]

Originally Posted by Wayne White

1. I have always maintained my own database without any problems. In the 'old days' I corrected song names & artists within the database after importing them as '1' in the name & pasting the names in from Excel after the fact since I could not paste all of them at once while importing.

So 1 problem with 5.04 requiring to rebuild my database to work it; is putting 1 in for the name and artist on a # of songs. This I can live with because I could easily fix them if not for problem # 2.

2. The second problem is; 3/4 of my BookIDs are wrong in the new database - I realized that they didn't match while attempting to fix problem # 1. I did a match of the 2 files by BookID and only 1/4 of my songs still have the same BookID.

Since I see no mention of this, I guess I must be the only one it happened to.

Wayne, as to problem #1, we are upgrading an old (~2004) utility that opens the current Songs.mdb and updates each KMA/KMH file header with the Songs DB fields. This is a simple "run it" and its done utility. If you haven't retitled all your "1" fields, please wait. Since you have this problem, you are able to test it for us. If things go as planned, we'll have it in 1-2 days. If not, it won't be finished.

Wayne, as to your Problem #2, we found a bug in 5.02 and fixed it. Please believe me, we have a CONSTANT FOCUS on adding new features to PRESERVE BookIDs. I simply don't have an answer. You are right in that you are the only one reporting this problem. I'd almost say your computer farkled in some way as your Songs DB was being rebuild. It can happen.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by jerst

I accicentally updated to 5.4 right before a show, which I never do. WHen opened up Hoster after the computer re-booted, the second lyrics screen that would generally pop up and land somewhere in the middle of the screen, didn't come up. We tried everything thinking that the video settings were off or something. Nothing worked. A friend of mine not familiar with the program went into show display settings and clicked on a box he said something like
"dock or un-dock lyrics screen" what this did was to allow us to pull the small screen that usually stays in the top left corner over to the second monitor and re-size it. A major pain in the butt.

Also the search function was affected. Let's say I put in "Pat Benatar" nothing would come up. If I typed in "Pat" or "Benatar" I could find it. What's up with that?

I uninstalled it and went back to 5.02

If you go to Tools/Options there is a Reset Displays button that would have moved the Singers Display back to default position on the computer monitor then you can place it where you wanted it.
Your search for Pat Benatar will not work because the Artists names are stored as Last name , First name or in other words Benatar, Pat. By using just one word then the search will look for any instance of that word. This has always been the way the search has worked. In this case less is better.