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Old February 17th, 2011, 07:49 AM
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Re: Consolidating Music for a back up system & KMA Vs. KMH

If you move all your zip files into one folder, wouldn't you have to do a "rebuild database"?. Also, if you have one folder for the zips and then add 12 new ones, how do you add only those to the database? I have been making subset folders with the new adds and selecting only that folder to add to database and I would like to get all the zips at one level.
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Old February 17th, 2011, 12:40 PM
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If you move all your zip files into one folder, wouldn't you have to do a "rebuild database"?. Also, if you have one folder for the zips and then add 12 new ones, how do you add only those to the database? I have been making subset folders with the new adds and selecting only that folder to add to database and I would like to get all the zips at one level.
After moving the HD/Zip music files, yes, you will need to rebuild the song database otherwise Hoster will not know where to look for your files.

It is also my understanding that when you add new songs in a single folder, the rebuild checks for duplicates first and adds only songs not already in the song database.

Please correct me if I am mistaken.
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Old February 17th, 2011, 01:05 PM
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It is also my understanding that when you add new songs in a single folder, the rebuild checks for duplicates first and adds only songs not already in the song database.

Please correct me if I am mistaken.
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Correct, but duplicates in this case means same disk id and track #, not necessarily same song title and artist.

Getting back to the original question as to keeping your database easy. If you create a folder on your external hard drive to hold all your Hoster song files, you can create a number of sub folders within the main folder. This would still keep things nice and tidy so you know where to look for them. If you do it this way you would have to list all the sub folders in the rebuild list then rebuild the list. Later if you want to use the add files feature be sure to move the folders with the new files in to the main folder before using the Add feature.
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Old December 18th, 2011, 07:37 PM
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Re: Consolidating Music for a back up system & KMA Vs. KMH

I think the whole KMH vs KMA file types have just confused people. At least I am. All my files are KMA direct from CD+G but if I understand correctly if I am going to import any zip karaoke zip files then I will have to put all my zip files into the same folder where my KMA files are stored.

I just tried importing a zip file as a KMA file and it worked just fine. I am not sure what the dirrerence is now. I though the KMH was the only choice you could pick if you were importing zip files. I also thought the KMH will allow a smaller file size but since you have to add the zip files to your destination folder then I don't see what the advantage is.
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Old December 18th, 2011, 08:10 PM
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I think the whole KMH vs KMA file types have just confused people. At least I am. All my files are KMA direct from CD+G but if I understand correctly if I am going to import any zip karaoke zip files then I will have to put all my zip files into the same folder where my KMA files are stored..
No you do not have to have them in the same folder as your Kma files.
You can have a seperate folder or multiple folders, it's your choice.

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I just tried importing a zip file as a KMA file and it worked just fine. I am not sure what the dirrerence is now. I though the KMH was the only choice you could pick if you were importing zip files. I also thought the KMH will allow a smaller file size but since you have to add the zip files to your destination folder then I don't see what the advantage is.
The option to allow you a choice of whether to use KMA or KMH again is yours.
The advantage with kmh files is if you already have a lot of zip,mp3+g or even none karaoke files the kmh file uses very little extra storage space to index your files and is far quicker importing them plus KMH files do NOT duplicate the original files which other programs can use. The kma file can only be used in Hoster, and in the case of a zip or mp3+g file if you import them as Kma you now have doubled your storage space unless you delete the original zip or mp3+g file.
Also the importing time is far longer for kma as it is rewriting the whole file, depending on the speed of your computer a KMH file will index a song in about 1.5 seconds against kma taking 30 seconds per song.
If you are only importing about 20 songs not a lot of difference but multiply this by 10,000 and there is a huge difference.
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Old December 19th, 2011, 07:26 PM
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Re: Consolidating Music for a back up system & KMA Vs. KMH

To add to that the only ones that must be KMH now are video types.
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Old December 19th, 2011, 10:19 PM
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Re: Consolidating Music for a back up system & KMA Vs. KMH

Well I thought I had this whole thing figured out but I don't so here is what I did. I created a folder call karaoke music, I put my folder containing all my KMA files in there then created another folder containing all my zip files. I then went to import, and tried importing all my zip files which it did but with thousands of duplicate book id's.
I thought I would just wind up with a lot of dupliactes then I would try and weed out the KMA ones and keep the smaller KMH files.

Afterward I went to verify all my songs were still there and it seems that some songs were actually gone. I don't know why. Bottom line is I spent all day trying to get my file sizes under control but wound up just deleting all the zip files back out before I lost all my KMA files in the process.

Is this problem because of the duplicate book id's? Could I delete the song database and start all over.

Heck I don't even know if I am explaining this right.
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