Strange Happenings

[WaltR]

Before reporting this weird event, I must first explain the following.
I backup my Hoster KMA and KMH files to an external hard drive by using the windows copy and past. I copy and paste the whole mtu file. I have done it this way for sometime.

Here is what is weird. I played a New Years Eve gig and everything went great without a hitch. The following Thursday I went to play my regular weekly gig. I started the show by singing a few songs in my singers play list with no problems. When the first singer turned in a song to sing, I entered the song i.d. and when I clicked on "add track", I received a pop message advising the "g" drive was not found (the "g" drive is my backup drive and was not connected to my computer). I tried a couple of other song requests from singers and received the same message. I shut down the show to boot up my backup computer and when I started it and entered the same songs, I received the same message. It gets even weider. I had not used this backup computer in over a month and it showed the same problem as my primary laptop. Fortunately, I discovered that it only involved about 10 disks with the song i.d's. ranging from 400 to 500. The next day I did a rebuild and still had the problem. I deted the mtu file and copied the backup file from my external hard drive and everythings was up and working normal. Everyday until the following Thursday, I checked my Hoster program on my primary show computer and everthing worked as it should. Thursday morning I booted up my computer to make sure if was working properly for that night's gig. Low and behold I received the same message again advisting my "g" wasn't found and the same book i.d's. were missing. I tried my backup laptop and the same problem was there again. This time when I tried to delete the mtu file and copy the backup mtu file, it wouldn't solve the problem. I have tried the rebuild feature and still none of these song i.d's would load. When I go through my KMA files the files that I lost are still listed in my KMA files. I thought that maybe when I did the rebuild, it had assigned new book i.d's, but when I go into the song edit section and list the missing songs by name or book i.d. they are not there. The only thing I can figure to try is to delete the KMA files in question and reload the disk. This is an example of how much easier it would be if hoster would list manufacturers disks with disk I.D.'s and Book I.D's. I also need to mention that when I go into the data base, the "g" drive is listed and "c" is not, but yet with the exception of the missing songs, the songs on the "c" drive still play.
I thought the only way to add a new drive is to go into the data base and add that drive. Hoster seems to be adding my backup drive on it's own and what is even stranger, it does this without the "g" drive hooked up to the computer. I know this sounds like I am in the twilight zone but this is competely accurate. Since I didn't have this problem resolved by my last gig, I took my external hard drive and hooked it up in order to get the missing book i.d.s to load and all went well as long as I have the backup drive connected. Any wisdom out there that may explain this???

[Joe Nieves]

Go to "Start" highlight My computer right click choose "Manage" then click "Disk Management" option, highlight your Ext. Drive in the dialog box and right click choose "Change Drive Letter and Paths " option, then click "Change" button at the bottom.

In the next dialog click and choose "G" then click OK, then look in My Computer to see if it's correct, once done you should be able to find things as normal once again...

Good Luck,
Joe...

[Roy Dennis]

One thing that springs to mind, are these files that report as on G drive KMH or KMA files?
Why I ask this is when you open the folder containing all your KMA & KMH files depending on your sort order (by name or by type) to copy them, if they were KMH files listed by Type order you may have copied the Header file but not the original Zip or MP3 & cdg files that have to accompany them.

[ddouglass]

As long as you have all the files on your C:\ drive, when you go into rebuild, check the list of locations and make sure that the C:\ drive folder is the only thing listed in the window. Then rebuild. That should change all drive locations to C:\.

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

One thing that springs to mind, are these files that report as on G drive KMH or KMA files?
Why I ask this is when you open the folder containing all your KMA & KMH files depending on your sort order (by name or by type) to copy them, if they were KMH files listed by Type order you may have copied the Header file but not the original Zip or MP3 & cdg files that have to accompany them.

Roy, I thought of this. They are KMA files.

Walt

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

As long as you have all the files on your C:\ drive, when you go into rebuild, check the list of locations and make sure that the C:\ drive folder is the only thing listed in the window. Then rebuild. That should change all drive locations to C:\.

Dale,

I did this and ended up with the same results. I have deleted the G drive from the data base and it ends up listed in the data base again down the line.

Walt

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves

Go to "Start" highlight My computer right click choose "Manage" then click "Disk Management" option, highlight your Ext. Drive in the dialog box and right click choose "Change Drive Letter and Paths " option, then click "Change" button at the bottom.

In the next dialog click and choose "G" then click OK, then look in My Computer to see if it's correct, once done you should be able to find things as normal once again...

Good Luck,
Joe...

Joe,
The G drive is my backup drive. I want to get rid of it in the data base but it keeps coming back. I am now using the G drive just to pick up the few disks that won't show up in Hoster from the C drive.

Walt

[Joe Nieves]

Dale gave you the right remedy in solving your dilemma...

Good Luck,
Joe...

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by WaltR

Dale,

I did this and ended up with the same results. I have deleted the G drive from the data base and it ends up listed in the data base again down the line.

Walt

How have you deleted the G:\ drive from the database?
See attached for where I am referring to.

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

How have you deleted the G:\ drive from the database?
See attached for where I am referring to.

That is where I deleted it. It shows up again even if I don't have the G drive hooked up to the computer.

Walt

[WaltR]

Dale,

I just open Hoster, went to the songs data base. Clicked on rebuild and it showed the G drive again, but no C drive. The only C drive file shown are those that have my KMH files but no KMA. If I select a song without the G drive hooked up it still brings up the KMA files on the C drive except those that I mentioned in the first post. They will only play if I have the G drive connected. How can it play the C drive KMA files if this drive doesn't show up in the songs data base?

Walt

[Joe Nieves]

Do you still have Hoster Kma files on drive c:\. if you do then remove the Ext. drive, then go to the dialog Dave mention and delete the G: folder and rebuild...

Joe...

[Joe Nieves]

Any time you import or do editing you should make a copy of the song database after you finished.

Highlight song.db right click and choose copy it will make an exact copy with the word copy in front of the file name for times like these...

Good Luck,
Joe...

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves

Do you still have Hoster Kma files on drive c:\. if you do then remove the Ext. drive, then go to the dialog Dave mention and delete the G: folder and rebuild...

Joe...

Joe that is what I have done. I do have Hoster kma files on drive c:\mtu\kma.

I have the same files on drive G:\mtu\kma
I keep deleting drive G from the data base under rebuild. A few days later drive G shows up in the data base again even though I haven't added it or even had this drive connected to my computer.

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves

Any time you import or do editing you should make a copy of the song database after you finished.

Highlight song.db right click and choose copy it will make an exact copy with the word copy in front of the file name for times like these...

Good Luck,
Joe...

When I do imports or edit, I copy and paste C:\mtu to drive G. I delete G:\mtu before I do the copy and paste.
Were is song.db that you are suggesting I copy?

Walt

[Joe Nieves]

Some how your confusing the system, you need to do it in drive c: where it exist in the default folder...

[Joe Nieves]

You need to charge the default drive path from G:\ to C:\, by rebuilding and pointing to the c:\ drive folder where your files exist and it should solve this problem..

Do you have any other drives like thumb drv. on your system... if you do remove it first...

My Hoster folder is in C:\MTU\Hoster, where My song.mdb database is located. This is where I Backup the database with the copy command and leave it there.. then I backUp the entire folder to Ext. HD..on a major change.

The folder that holds My songs is C:\MTU\KMA, Folder you need to point to for the rebuild...

Good Luck,
Joe...

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves

You need to charge the default drive path from G:\ to C:\, by rebuilding and pointing to the c:\ drive folder where your files exist and it should solve this problem..

Do you have any other drives like thumb drv. on your system... if you do remove it first...

My Hoster folder is in C:\MTU\Hoster, where My song.mdb database is located. This is where I Backup the database with the copy command and leave it there.. then I backUp the entire folder to Ext. HD..on a major change.

The folder that holds My songs is C:\MTU\KMA, Folder you need to point to for the rebuild...

Good Luck,
Joe...

Joe,

I don't think you are following me. The folder that holds my songs is also C:\MTU\KMA. I back this up on my external drive which is the G drive. I do this by coping C:\MTU then pasteing it to G:\. I then have G:\MTU on my external drive. I have been doing this for quite sometime without a problem. Now my Hoster data base is picking up the G drive on its own. I delete it and it comes back again maybe the next time I open Hoster or maybe it will take 2 or 3 times before this happens. Right now if I open rebuild, it shows G:\MTU\KMA. It does not show C:\MTU\KMA. I don't have the G drive hooked up and even though it does not show the C drive in the data base Hoster will play my KMA files on the C drive. It won't play book I.D.s 485, 486, 487, 488, 489, 490. It will play these book I.D.s only if I hookup my G drive. I have tried to rebuild the C drive data base but it still won't recognize the above book I.D.s unless I have my G drive connected to the computer. How does Hoster play KMA files on my C drive if this drive isn't listed in the data base? How does Hoster add the G drive to my data base without me doing it? I hope I have explained this properly this time. Sorry if I have made this confusing.

Walt

[Joe Nieves]

From what you just said it seems clear to me that those file may not exist in your c:\ drive anymore check to see if it does....

If it doesn't then copy those file to your default c:\ drive folder and rebuild again...

Joe...

[Joe Nieves]

I forgot to ask you to delete the song.mdb file in the Hoster folder first, but before you delete make...you know what Just move it to the desktop then delete after your done..

Joe...