Singer Monitor Issue

[eben333]

I think there is a confusion on what the problem is. The width of the singer screen is not a problem. The middle portion, which is where you said the manufacture produces, between the Marquee section at the top and the singer list section at the bottom gets shifted up. So, the top portion of the song window gets clipped. Again, if I resize the entire singer window, that image shifts back to normal.

It seems to me it's more a bug than a feature. If indeed that it is the problem of the manufacturers, then why does the window sets itself right, once I resize the window, even just a tiny bit? I certainly would like this fixed to it works with any resolutions.

Not only that, it's only with CD+G. When I play a video file, it never has that problem. It just gets stretched wider than usual. Again, another data point that may suggest a bug, not a feature.

[Roy Dennis]

It seems to me to be where you are connecting two different types of output from the outputs of the computer. i.e either use 2 vga monitors or two TV's.

As the problem seems to occur when you add the singers screen, could it have anything to do with your aspect ratio settings on the external TV ?
These can usually be selected from the TV settings, nothing to do with your computer settings. Just a suggestion.

Roy.

[ddouglass]

If you feel this is really a bug, though I think as Roy and I have said that it is a resolution usage or connection method problem, then submit a Support Ticket and let MTU take a look at it. Since yours is the only complaint on this, I really doubt it is a problem in the software.

[Roy Dennis]

I have tried to replicate your problem on my own computer but can't.
This is the setup I tried.
Laptop with Hoster control panel showing for DJ, from the VGA out I connected a VGA to video converter (as shown in attachment "VGA conv,") . This has outputs for VGA, svideo and composite video. I connected a VGA monitor to the VGA out and an svideo out from svideo out socket at the same time. I had pictures on both external monitors with no loss of picture area.
But my resolution from the Windows/display/screen resolution was set to 1366 x 768 this is shown as the recommended in the windows setting as you can see in the attachment "Screen resolution".
With this VGA to video converter you do not need a splitter cable. If you are interested in this converter there is one for sale on Ebay at this address: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PC-VGA-TV-Vide...item563b59151e

Also on my system, if I show a video it doesn't stretch it to make it out of proportion, if the original video is 4.3 that is how it displays it.

I haven't seen any mention in these posts as to what version of Hoster you are running my above tests were done with 4.21.
Hope this helps you.

Roy.

Roy

[billyo]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

I have tried to replicate your problem on my own computer but can't.
This is the setup I tried.
Laptop with Hoster control panel showing for DJ, from the VGA out I connected a VGA to video converter (as shown in attachment "VGA conv,") . This has outputs for VGA, svideo and composite video. I connected a VGA monitor to the VGA out and an svideo out from svideo out socket at the same time. I had pictures on both external monitors with no loss of picture area.
But my resolution from the Windows/display/screen resolution was set to 1366 x 768 this is shown as the recommended in the windows setting as you can see in the attachment "Screen resolution".
With this VGA to video converter you do not need a splitter cable. If you are interested in this converter there is one for sale on Ebay at this address: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PC-VGA-TV-Vide...item563b59151e

Also on my system, if I show a video it doesn't stretch it to make it out of proportion, if the original video is 4.3 that is how it displays it.

I haven't seen any mention in these posts as to what version of Hoster you are running my above tests were done with 4.21.
Hope this helps you.

Roy.

Roy

i tried it at home too,and, i have the same pc to to converter you have, i got mine connected to my 19" ( vga ) monitor and to 56" flat screen tv LCD ( 1080p) (s-video ) i have the same connection at the place i play,and i didnt have have problems, he can get the same converter from www.monoprice.com for $26.00

[eben333]

Roy, I am repeatedly able to replicate the problem with just a simple set up. I use my laptop and use the HDMI connector on the laptop to a 23" screen with a HDMI connector. Set the external monitor to 1920x1080. I see this issue when I play a song, not with the static image or with video playback. This only happens with CD+G.

The original problem was using a video converter but I was able to replicate the problem with the above setting. BTW, I use the same converter as one you showed below.

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

I have tried to replicate your problem on my own computer but can't.
This is the setup I tried.
Laptop with Hoster control panel showing for DJ, from the VGA out I connected a VGA to video converter (as shown in attachment "VGA conv,") . This has outputs for VGA, svideo and composite video. I connected a VGA monitor to the VGA out and an svideo out from svideo out socket at the same time. I had pictures on both external monitors with no loss of picture area.
But my resolution from the Windows/display/screen resolution was set to 1366 x 768 this is shown as the recommended in the windows setting as you can see in the attachment "Screen resolution".
With this VGA to video converter you do not need a splitter cable. If you are interested in this converter there is one for sale on Ebay at this address: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PC-VGA-TV-Vide...item563b59151e

Also on my system, if I show a video it doesn't stretch it to make it out of proportion, if the original video is 4.3 that is how it displays it.

I haven't seen any mention in these posts as to what version of Hoster you are running my above tests were done with 4.21.
Hope this helps you.

Roy.

Roy

[billyo]

Originally Posted by eben333

I think there is a confusion on what the problem is. The width of the singer screen is not a problem. The middle portion, which is where you said the manufacture produces, between the Marquee section at the top and the singer list section at the bottom gets shifted up. So, the top portion of the song window gets clipped. Again, if I resize the entire singer window, that image shifts back to normal.

It seems to me it's more a bug than a feature. If indeed that it is the problem of the manufacturers, then why does the window sets itself right, once I resize the window, even just a tiny bit? I certainly would like this fixed to it works with any resolutions.

Not only that, it's only with CD+G. When I play a video file, it never has that problem. It just gets stretched wider than usual. Again, another data point that may suggest a bug, not a feature.

you might wanna check the tv setting, see if the picture size is on zoom1 or zoom2, i have a 56" Samsung LCD tv and everytime i changed the picture size to either zoom 1 or 2 i am unable to read the bottom display , make sure the picture size is on 16:9.

[eben333]

Originally Posted by billyo

you might wanna check the tv setting, see if the picture size is on zoom1 or zoom2, i have a 56" Samsung LCD tv and everytime i changed the picture size to either zoom 1 or 2 i am unable to read the bottom display , make sure the picture size is on 16:9.

Thanks Billyo, I can understand if only the TV side shows that issue, that may be a problem. However, I see this on both the TV and the VGA monitor I use for singer. Both shows the issue.

Besides, when I connect via HDMI directly from the laptop to a LCD display in to HDMI port only, I see this issue also. I made sure that the singer screen was set to 1920x1080.

[Roy Dennis]

I have never tried the HDMI connection myself so am not able to re-create that set up. (I haven't got the leads)
I notice in all these posts that you haven't told us which version of Hoster you are running. All the people that have replied are either using 4.20 or 4.21, are you are using earlier version? If so perhaps that is where the problem lies.

Roy.

[eben333]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

I have never tried the HDMI connection myself so am not able to re-create that set up. (I haven't got the leads)
I notice in all these posts that you haven't told us which version of Hoster you are running. All the people that have replied are either using 4.20 or 4.21, are you are using earlier version? If so perhaps that is where the problem lies.

Roy.

My apologies for not stating the version number. I am running version 4.21, the latest that I know of.