Hoster 4.2 and windows 7 disaster - FIXED in V4.22

[billyo]

i don't know what else to tell you, but most of the Hoster users that has this problem including myself was able to fixed it by just adjusting the plaback offset, in my case i adjusted it to -0.5,since you said that it's a new laptop have you done all the updates etc..and the changes needed ? ( had to asked, sorry)

[Beavis]

honestly, anyone who does this professionally, should be running windows xp pro !

[Deeter]

I think the OP has a good point. I, too never had any offset problems with 3321. Since then, every version has needed adjustment. If virtually everyone needs an offset adjustment, seems like that's a big clue that the problem is not hardware-specific.

[ddouglass]

The only problem Deeter is it is not everyone is having this problem.

James is this an Intel or AMD processor?
Laptop or desktop?
How much memory does the ATI have? What model is it?
Have you done all the changes listed for Windows 7?
Have you tried turning off unneeded processes using Blackviper's recommendations?
Have you tried lowering the aceleration for the audio through the DXdiag?

So what you are saying is MTU should not have put in all the requested upgrades that users have asked for? They have worked very hard trying to get this program as good as they can. Microsoft has thrown so many monkey wrenches into the works with the major operating system changes of Vista and Windows 7 that it is hard to keep up with all of it or find out from them what all they have changed.
I know that the military had a policy in place that any major change in operating system had to have gone through rigorous testing and at least 2 service packs before they would even think of using it. Vista never made it to two and Windows 7 hasn't had one yet. IMHO that is where your program code errors are.

[admin]

Originally Posted by Deeter

I think the OP has a good point. I, too never had any offset problems with 3321. Since then, every version has needed adjustment. If virtually everyone needs an offset adjustment, seems like that's a big clue that the problem is not hardware-specific.

Have you tried version 4.22? We'd like to hear your feedback.

[Deeter]

Originally Posted by admin

Have you tried version 4.22? We'd like to hear your feedback.

I just loaded 4.22 last night- and after loading a few new zips and noticing the change in file handling, I may go back to 4.1 or even 3.321. I really don't want my files to be a mixture of kma, kmh, and zip in a myriad of locations.

[admin]

Originally Posted by Deeter

I just loaded 4.22 last night- and after loading a few new zips and noticing the change in file handling, I may go back to 4.1 or even 3.321. I really don't want my files to be a mixture of kma, kmh, and zip in a myriad of locations.

Deeter, did you try playing some songs to see if the lyrics are now in sync? That was the MAJOR fix we did in 4.22. Others are reporting all their problems have now disappeared from the other bugs we finally found and fixed. Are you truly going to return to a back version and ignore these fixes?

If your complaint is not having all files in one folder, if you read the manual on the KMA and KMH importing, you should find we have built in a lot of flexibility to meet everyone's needs. You can have any folder/sub-folder structure you want; all on one drive or from multiple drives if you so desire.

The KMH format adds the same 256-byte header as we do in our KMA. However, instead of "wrapping" your ZIP or MP3+G or WM+G files into the KMA structure, we instantly add the header into the same folder where your ZIP, MP3G and WMAG files are, and we create these and index them in the Songs database at around 6/second, compared to MUCH longer for KMA files.

Also, you don't duplicate the file space with KMH. We simply use the same files you have, and allow your other programs (DJ, etc.) to also use them; something not possible with conversion to KMA.

4.22 also now indexes Video files, which if we converted to KMA would take 40MB-100MB depending on the file type and size. When we earlier converted Videos to KMA files, it took 12 seconds to open each file ready to play. Whereas with the KMH header added to the same folder, it takes milliseconds to open each ready to play. That was the driving force for the KMH format. Using it with ZIP, MP3G and WMAG was a natural fallout to save hard drive space. It also quickly indexes your library of songs so you could run your first show within hours of installing Hoster with your karaoke songs already on a hard drive.

In closing, please read the manual and reconsider the benefits the KMH 'header" format gives you. Again, you can rearrange your files into folders/sub-folders you want. The Import Hard Drive Files screen automatically adds any new import folders (and sub-folders if the checkbox is clicked) to the Build Songs Database dialog "window", so you know all the folders you are accessing in the Songs database.

[ddouglass]

Deeter also read my answer to your other thread about the KMH.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Beavis

honestly, anyone who does this professionally, should be running windows xp pro !

Ditto, Beav!!

[Musicman51]

honestly, anyone who does this professionally, should be running windows xp pro !

i dunno...i'm running 32 bit vista on a great laptop. Now i know i know..yeah i hear ya...but maybe i've been lucky. But i have never..never had an operational problem that wasn't traced back directly to either user error, or software problems... i couldn't add songs to hoster for almost 3 months awhile back. I was told all sorts of things was the problem. From my laptop, to microsoft, to you name it. Came down to only 15 of us in the world had this issue..mtu of course sent all 15 of us a fix. like i said..i know i know....

[Musicman51]

I hope everyone is having a fun filled, safe memorial week~end. Lets remember our great vets, who gave so much for us. Now, please excuse the double post. But to address your concerns Ed. I personally prefer a, as you refer to them "momma-pappa" kind of operation. Not that mtu is actually. Mtu is the leader in karaoke hosting software, also in karaoke production software...period! They can't please everyone. I've been in the music/entertainment industry for 40 years. Longer then some of these kids, who are suppose to be pro's, have been alive. Patience is the key. I like personal customer service. MTU wrote the book on customer service. Name me a company who will sit down, and hook up to your show computer to analize your problem?

I to, am not pleased with a couple of mtu choices. For instance, bring out an upgrade to hoster, when Microstudio is not fully fuctional on 64 bit. But Hoster is mtu's bread and butter, Microstudio isn't. So here i sit patiently, with a 32 bit PC that is 6+ years old, gone through 3 writters, in order to make back up's. You will not find another presentation software firm, any better then mtu..believe me. You will get it all straightened out. Again...patience.

[billyo]

from what i read on Ed's latest post, that there was a "bug fix" for this problems, and he wouldn't download it till he( hears) or knows that everyone who have his problems got theirs' fixed, and for you Ed, how about trying to download it, you'll never know , it might work, ( just a suggestion )

[Chad Slater]

I downloaded it last night and noticed that my lyrics were out of sync as well, used to have it at a -5 and now with the upgrade I had to move it to -8

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by Beavis

honestly, anyone who does this professionally, should be running windows xp pro !

Hey Bevis, I don't recall MTU advising everyone to use Hoster with XP PRO. Did I miss something?

[bryant]

Originally Posted by WaltR

Hey Bevis, I don't recall MTU advising everyone to use Hoster with XP PRO. Did I miss something?

I think at one time when Vista first made its entry it wasn't very useable w/o lotsa problems on a lot of programs, and most on this site at the time strongly suggested that if you have XP, keep using it as long as you can, as I have.

[Musicman51]

As to Hoster Lite shipping with the features enabled that were reserved for Full Hoster, that was a gross oversight on our part. Our web site page clearly states these features are not available in Lite. We discovered this recently and that is why they are now removed.

Dear Admin

Not going to harp on this issue. But when i ordered "Hoster Lite" several months ago. I purposely chose the "Lite" version for two reasons only. The deciding factors in purchasing hoster "Lite" over the "Hoster" version were simple. #1 The two programs were identical in features, except the notebook feature and #2, i am a small independent user, have absolutly no use for two copies of hoster. So "Lite" was made for me so to speak. It is not that way any longer. In midstream you choose, to change the layout of hoster "Lite", therefore forcing us users who purchased hoster lite some time ago, to either stay, with what we have under the "Old" formate and pretence, and loose all future upgrades. Or spend money on a product i do not need. A "gross oversight"? i think not. Sounds more like a marketing decision. But what's done is done. I think in good faith, the very least, very least mtu could do. Is to offer the hoster lite users who have purchased their version earlier, to be "Grandfathered" in to the upgrades without loosing the features, in my opinion we paid for in good faith. Kinda put's a bad taste in my mouth....but, what's done is done....we move on.

Thanks for voting as one of many who don't experience this reported problem.

Ummmm...admin. Don't count my vote just yet. The reason i don't have this problem, is because i am not allowed to upgrade to this version or i loose all my software features! I am stuck in this version forever!

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by bryant

I think at one time when Vista first made its entry it wasn't very useable w/o lotsa problems on a lot of programs, and most on this site at the time strongly suggested that if you have XP, keep using it as long as you can, as I have.

Bryan,
Not to belabor this issue but Bevis post referenced XP PRO. I wasn't refering to just XP version.

Walt

[bryant]

Originally Posted by WaltR

Bryan,
Not to belabor this issue but Bevis post referenced XP PRO. I wasn't refering to just XP version.

Walt

Gotcha, sorry about that the.

[MTUSUPPORT]

Anyone that is having any Out of Sync Lyrics problems, Please Post in this thread located HERE.

Once you have posted in here, I have a file to send you to see if we have fixed it or not. We think that we have fixed the Sync Issue, I now need customers to tell me so, by testing it for us.

[Beavis]

Originally Posted by WaltR

Hey Bevis, I don't recall MTU advising everyone to use Hoster with XP PRO. Did I miss something?

did i say MTU advises everyone ??

all i know is i dont have the problems everyone has and i run 1/2 the minumum requirments MTU requires in my computer.