Virtual DJ Crashes Hoster

[Stefan]

When running Virtual DJ 5.2pro (VDJ) to get the party started and having Hoster 4.05 ready, then at the end of playing a video in VDJ and bringing Hoster to the front and play a song Hoster always crashes. When disabling the video ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 in config VDJ there is no problem with Hoster.

Is there a fix that I can run both?

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Stefan

When running Virtual DJ 5.2pro (VDJ) to get the party started and having Hoster 4.05 ready, then at the end of playing a video in VDJ and bringing Hoster to the front and play a song Hoster always crashes. When disabling the video ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 in config VDJ there is no problem with Hoster.

Is there a fix that I can run both?

Stef,
I remember having this problem several years ago, and did finally figure out that the video HAS to be disabled. There is no workaround at all. Spent months on their forum looking into it, tried many other things I thought might have worked, but that turned out to be the only thing. The shortest short-cut I use is on the 1024 x 728 default pro skin from Lady Ccameron; that has a video tab in the upper left that you can click on as a disable/able switch. This is a little quicker than going to config and unchecking. Once in a while I forget, and oops, sure enough: Crasheroo!

However, I'm not sure if the new preferences in Hoster 4.0x that deal with "Hoster priority" may make a difference, I think not, but haven't tried anything with that yet. You may wanna check that out?

If you use SBDJ's slide show (a plugin he developed that's better than the VDJ's packaged slideshow that shows pictures w/o making them too wide/fat as the default one does), at random times even if you use the video deactivate switch in VDJ, the crash still happens.

He (SBDJ - 'Scott') said he was going to look into it as I told him it was sort of a bug left in his plug-in. But he hasn't got to it yet.


What skin do you use; do you use slideshows at all?

Keep in touch as you and my wife are the few that combine VDJ and Hoster at shows?

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by Stefan

When running Virtual DJ 5.2pro (VDJ) to get the party started and having Hoster 4.05 ready, then at the end of playing a video in VDJ and bringing Hoster to the front and play a song Hoster always crashes. When disabling the video ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 in config VDJ there is no problem with Hoster.

Is there a fix that I can run both?

Sounds like both programs are trying to have Video be their priority. Can you select which video card to use in VDJ? Hoster doesn't have that capability, but if VDJ does yoou may be able to select a second card and use that output for VDJ and the default one for Hoster. Yoou would then need some way to switch between the outputs to go to the TV either through your mixer or a switch box.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Sounds like both programs are trying to have Video be their priority. Can you select which video card to use in VDJ? Hoster doesn't have that capability, but if VDJ does yoou may be able to select a second card and use that output for VDJ and the default one for Hoster. Yoou would then need some way to switch between the outputs to go to the TV either through your mixer or a switch box.

Not many laptops come with two video cards, or PC's , do they? When using hoster and a song running, you CAN throw on a VDJ video on w/o issue however, as I think VDJ TAKES priority somehow, then retains it.

[ddouglass]

On a PC they can be added and for laptops you have USB externals. It was just a thought.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

On a PC they can be added and for laptops you have USB externals. It was just a thought.

Yup, I see. I heard those usb external cards are a real bear to get right though. Some on VDJ tried and say they couldn't get the quality they should have gotten. lot of miscellaneous problems too.


Still much easier to click a tab.

[Joe Nieves]

Originally Posted by Stefan

When running Virtual DJ 5.2pro (VDJ) to get the party started and having Hoster 4.05 ready, then at the end of playing a video in VDJ and bringing Hoster to the front and play a song Hoster always crashes. When disabling the video ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 in config VDJ there is no problem with Hoster.

Is there a fix that I can run both?

Hi Stefan

I also use VDJ for my shows and found a workaround solution for this problem that I will share with you.

There are a lot of steps at first but no problem after you see the results.

1) Start VDJ and set up your video plugins
2) Minimize VDJ and drag it to the upper right corner.
3) Run your DJ/VJ show like normal.
4) Start Hoster program.
5) Minimize Hoster and drag it to the lower left corner.

When ready to start Hoster do the following;

A) In VDJ go to effects tab then click the Video effects button.
B) Select Sonique plugin, to the right you'll see a Slideshow Delay bar
C) Click on the squire and slide it all the way to the right.
D) Find the Transparency bar below.
E) Click on the squire and slide it all the way to the left.

6) Click on the plugin activate button until it turns black.
7) Then press Ctrl V to clear your screen, you will then see Hoster screen to run your show.

To Return To VDJ

1) Minimize Hoster to the task bar.
2) At VDJ press Ctrl V to reactivate the plugin.
3) Start your DJ/VJ show in VDJ.
3) Restore Hoster from the task bar.

When Ready To Return To Hoster Again.

1) Go to A), 6), 7) you should see your Hoster Screen.

This Works for me all the time.

Good Luck Joe.....

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves

Hi Stefan

I also use VDJ for my shows and found a workaround solution for this problem that I will share with you.

There are a lot of steps at first but no problem after you see the results.

1) Start VDJ and set up your video plugins
2) Minimize VDJ and drag it to the upper right corner.
3) Run your DJ/VJ show like normal.
4) Start Hoster program.
5) Minimize Hoster and drag it to the lower left corner.

When ready to start Hoster do the following;

A) In VDJ go to effects tab then click the Video effects button.
B) Select Sonique plugin, to the right you'll see a Slideshow Delay bar
C) Click on the squire and slide it all the way to the right.
D) Find the Transparency bar below.
E) Click on the squire and slide it all the way to the left.

6) Click on the plugin activate button until it turns black.
7) Then press Ctrl V to clear your screen, you will then see Hoster screen to run your show.

To Return To VDJ

1) Minimize Hoster to the task bar.
2) At VDJ press Ctrl V to reactivate the plugin.
3) Start your DJ/VJ show in VDJ.
3) Restore Hoster from the task bar.

When Ready To Return To Hoster Again.

1) Go to A), 6), 7) you should see your Hoster Screen.

This Works for me all the time.

Good Luck Joe.....

Wow, isn't it more simple to use just two steps "click on video tab button" to deactivate, then click on video tab button again anytime while hoster is say finishing a song, and a video pops in.

[ddouglass]

Wouldn't it be easier to just use Hoster to play the videos?

[Joe Nieves]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Wouldn't it be easier to just use Hoster to play the videos?

That's the problem it doesn't, I have many types of video files that I use with VDJ and they all work but won't play in Hoster.

Also the effects, looping and control plus the ability to use Hercules or other controlers makes it more easier to due a DJ/VJ show.

[Joe Nieves]

Bryant
Wow, isn't it more simple to use just two steps "click on video tab button" to deactivate, then click on video tab button again anytime while hoster is say finishing a song, and a video pops in.

There are a lot of steps at first but no problem after you see the results.

Once you due the initial steps then it's a matter of step A), 6), 7 on my post and it works no Hoster always crashes problem.

You use VDJ in you're shows also don't you?

Thx Joe......

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves

Bryant
Wow, isn't it more simple to use just two steps "click on video tab button" to deactivate, then click on video tab button again anytime while hoster is say finishing a song, and a video pops in.

There are a lot of steps at first but no problem after you see the results.

Once you due the initial steps then it's a matter of step A), 6), 7 on my post and it works no Hoster always crashes problem.

You use VDJ in you're shows also don't you?

Thx Joe......

Joe,
I'm confused. Why wouldn't clicking a tab on and off not be the simplest way? Please explain again or email me. I do use VDJ for videos, too.

[Joe Nieves]

Hi Bryant

The reason is that if you don't do it this way with Hoster 4.5 it crashes all the time.

I was using 4.2 and I didn't have to do this just Ctrl V, so go figure.

Are you having problems with you're VDJ & Hoster?
What version of Hoster are you using.

Thx Joe.....

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves

Hi Bryant

The reason is that if you don't do it this way with Hoster 4.5 it crashes all the time.

I was using 4.2 and I didn't have to do this just Ctrl V, so go figure.

Are you having problems with you're VDJ & Hoster?
What version of Hoster are you using.

Thx Joe.....

Oh, wow. I use VDJ5.2 and Hoster 4.04 at present on a shuttle 2 gB ram, 256 mB dedicated video card.

All I have ever had to do is deactivate the video in VDJ before playing a Hoster song. As you know then, the easiest ways to deactivate the video is by config video and unclick activate video in VDJ. Or on some skins there is a video tab that'll do this, or turning on "hotkey shortcuts" (which I never do) and use ctrl-V.

Are you saying that control-V, or deactivate video in the VDJ congig video box does not work with Hoster 4.05?

Yikes!

Although, the only exception to the above is when I use the new "SBDJ's" slideshow, at random times the deactivate video does not work.

I wonder if I try your little scheme if it will work with that slideshow.

I just read Stefan's first quote that initiated this thread and he states that he uses H4.05 and VDJ5.2 and he has NO problem as long as he deactivates the video in VDJ's config video screen, which is only three clicks total with the mouse.

[Joe Nieves]

Hi Brant

I'm using VDJ 5.7 and Hoster 4.5 MicroExpress 2.6 Duo 4 gig nVidia 8600 Video 512 Mem card & 250 gig 7200 Rpm Drv.


Are you saying that control-V, or deactivate video in the VDJ congig video box does not work with Hoster 4.05?

No if you deactivate from config then you will completely remove video.

But if you use the hot key then you can activate at will in conjuction with Hoster or other video programs, and if I'm Mixing Video & audio I can autoMix using Hot Key Ctrl SpaceBar.

I primarily use VDJ for video & audio DJ work with a MK2 Hercules controller that works with video very well and other feature that a working DJ needs.

Thx Joe.....

[admin]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves

That's the problem it doesn't, I have many types of video files that I use with VDJ and they all work but won't play in Hoster.

Also the effects, looping and control plus the ability to use Hercules or other controlers makes it more easier to due a DJ/VJ show.

Joe, what types of your video files don't play in Hoster?

In Hoster 4.00-4.05 we are using WMP and it should play everything that can be played in Windows.

Do your files play in Hoster 3.40?

It uses our older "Video Player" code that we are considering switching back to.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves

Hi Brant

I'm using VDJ 5.7 and Hoster 4.5 MicroExpress 2.6 Duo 4 gig nVidia 8600 Video 512 Mem card & 250 gig 7200 Rpm Drv.


Are you saying that control-V, or deactivate video in the VDJ congig video box does not work with Hoster 4.05?

No if you deactivate from config then you will completely remove video.

But if you use the hot key then you can activate at will in conjuction with Hoster or other video programs, and if I'm Mixing Video & audio I can autoMix using Hot Key Ctrl SpaceBar.

I primarily use VDJ for video & audio DJ work with a MK2 Hercules controller that works with video very well and other feature that a working DJ needs.

Thx Joe.....

That is my point: You DO need to completely remove (deactivate) the video in VDJ for Hoster to utilize its video/graphics functions, which, in the simplest form is
playing and displaying a karaoke song.

And that is done (deactivate) simply by clicking the video tab previously mentioned.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieves
That's the problem it doesn't, I have many types of video files that I use with VDJ and they all work but won't play in Hoster.

Also the effects, looping and control plus the ability to use Hercules or other controlers makes it more easier to due a DJ/VJ show.

VDJ is a highly specialized program designed specifically for the use of video-file playing and mixing, but doesn't offer many necessary features for karaoke hosting. It has a special config box for assigning codecs to specific video types; it also has a VDJ default video player that includes a number of specialty (hard to find) codecs that
will decode a number of video files that a lot of other programs cannot. It took VDJ many upgrades and revisions to get to this point. (flv, m4p, etc.)

I believe Hoster, at this time, does play the most commonly used videos at this time.

[Joe Nieves]

Hi Brant

That is my point: You DO need to completely remove (deactivate) the video in VDJ for Hoster to utilize its video/graphics functions, which, in the simplest form is
playing and displaying a karaoke song.

And that is done (deactivate) simply by clicking the video tab previously mentioned.

Yes Brant your right as far as the version of Hoster your using, But that's not the case with the Hoster version that I'm currently using which is 4.5.

VDJ Tech said the same thing you did, go to config.

beleave me it was a lot of work for me to figure out this workaround that I discovered.

I was using Hoster 4.2 with just the Ctrl V switch and it always worked, now with Hoster 4.5 I need to do the 3 steps in my post after it's setUp.

I now have no problem playing music or video in VDJ while setting up Hoster.

I play a audio file in VDJ before starting the karaoke file in Hoster, then right at the audio intro of the karaoke file I start fading out VDJ background music with my controller.

The only thing better then that would be to be able to control both Hoster & VDJ? Wow Excuse me for day dreaming.

Thx Joe.....

[Joe Nieves]

Originally Posted by admin

Joe, what types of your video files don't play in Hoster?

In Hoster 4.00-4.05 we are using WMP and it should play everything that can be played in Windows.

Do your files play in Hoster 3.40?

It uses our older "Video Player" code that we are considering switching back to.

Hi Mr. Admin

Files that won’t play in WMP VOB

Files that will play in WMP MPG

Hoster 4.5 starts to play MPG and gives a white screen and have to shut down won’t play any video and when it did in 4.2 it didn’t play in extended monitor.

Hoster 3.4 plays the audio only no video at all.

I’d like to request in the singers database a third field called venue be added were you can add the name of the place your doing a show at and add singers for that venue because it’s very mush needed for the following reason;



1) I have four shows in four different locations and all have singers name Sally, Bob & Mike.

2) Then I get three more shows to due in three different locations from the first four and get singers with names Sally, Bob & Mike how do I sort this out from one location to the other?

3) This has happened to me and it gets very confusing after a build up of common names while putting on a show.

4) If this function of venue was added then names would be organized by venue and not be a problem.




Thank You for Listening
Joe…..