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Old August 24th, 2008, 11:18 AM
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Slow refresh for Singers list.

I know that I saw this posted for version 4.1, but i cant find it.
I have had this problem since version 4.1, but have been waiting to see if a later version fixed it.
The singers data base is extremely slow when it refreshes..When you select a singer the singers lists window turns gray and the screen refreshes. Sometimes takes as long as 20 seconds.

I played with it a little on my desktop and found that if you only have a few singers with only a few songs. It works fine. On my show laptop I have 48 singers, over half of them have over twenty song...

The biggest problem with the slow refresh is it freezes all Hoster controls..
You can't do anything until it finishes.

I have plenty of memory on all machines and all are completely up to date.

Tried it on my backup laptop...Same thing. Has anyone else noticed this?
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Old August 24th, 2008, 12:18 PM
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Hey Laddie,
Are you talking about the Singer Database?

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Old August 24th, 2008, 01:38 PM
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Hey Laddie,
Are you talking about the Singer Database?

Jim

Yes.
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Old August 25th, 2008, 03:34 AM
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When new features are added to a program there are two factors that always come into play.

1. The program will use more resources

2. The new code need to be teaked


MTU will work with the Singer Database code and smooth things out. I'll bring this up when we start testing 4.04.

Thanks

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Old September 25th, 2008, 05:39 AM
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Try This

Hey Laddie,
My singer database has been filling up. What I'm doing is I leave the Singer Database window and the search window open all of the time. I set the Taskbar to autohide and pull them to the bottom of the screen, I don't close them. I leave the database window so only the name filed is visable. When I want to see the database I enter the singer name and double click on the top of the window and it goes full screen. When I'm done I double click again and it returns. (I'd like to be able to do the same thing with the search window. That way I don't have drag any windows around. Maybe down the road. )

Try leaving the Singer Databse window open (moved so you can see most of the playlist), this seems to make it work better.

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Old September 25th, 2008, 08:24 AM
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Jim,
I will try that, sounds like it may help as long as the list of songs is less than one screen full..

I will test it on 4.03 tonight. Support told my to try unloading wmp11 for version 4.04 to stop slow graphics. I am going to load 4.04 back on my laptop for Friday night with wmp9 to test that. I will use your songs DB method as well. Let you know how it works. Thanks
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Old September 25th, 2008, 12:50 PM
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Jim,
I will try that, sounds like it may help as long as the list of songs is less than one screen full..

I will test it on 4.03 tonight. Support told my to try unloading wmp11 for version 4.04 to stop slow graphics. I am going to load 4.04 back on my laptop for Friday night with wmp9 to test that. I will use your songs DB method as well. Let you know how it works. Thanks
Laddie,
I have used WMP 11 on all of my computers since before 4.0 was released. If you are serious about having Hoster 4 run at it's best, you should get WMP 11, im my opinion.

Also you need .netframework 3 and SP3 (for XP if you use it) if you want Hoster 4 to run it's best. All custom windows updates must be installed as well.

I hope this helps.

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Old September 25th, 2008, 03:27 PM
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Laddie,
I have used WMP 11 on all of my computers since before 4.0 was released. If you are serious about having Hoster 4 run at it's best, you should get WMP 11, im my opinion.

Also you need .netframework 3 and SP3 (for XP if you use it) if you want Hoster 4 to run it's best. All custom windows updates must be installed as well.

I hope this helps.

Jim
Jim,
I have wmp 11 installed, along with .netframework 3 and SP3...MTU support told me to un-install it. That is was possibley causing the lyrics to slow or stop in version 4.04.. I don't think it's the problem, but I will give it a shot...
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Old September 25th, 2008, 03:32 PM
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Jim,
I have wmp 11 installed, along with .netframework 3 and SP3...MTU support told me to un-install it. That is was possibley causing the lyrics to slow or stop in version 4.04.. I don't think it's the problem, but I will give it a shot...

I see now, Thanks laddie. Since we have the same setup and it works for me, I have to agree with you.

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Old September 26th, 2008, 10:42 AM
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Hey Laddie,
My singer database has been filling up. What I'm doing is I leave the Singer Database window and the search window open all of the time. I set the Taskbar to autohide and pull them to the bottom of the screen, I don't close them. I leave the database window so only the name filed is visable. When I want to see the database I enter the singer name and double click on the top of the window and it goes full screen. When I'm done I double click again and it returns. (I'd like to be able to do the same thing with the search window. That way I don't have drag any windows around. Maybe down the road. )

Try leaving the Singer Databse window open (moved so you can see most of the playlist), this seems to make it work better.

Jim
Jim,
I used the method last night and it is a pretty good work-around. Its still slow, but not dragging the screen save alot refresh time.
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Old September 26th, 2008, 10:50 AM
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Jim,
I used the method last night and it is a pretty good work-around. Its still slow, but not dragging the screen save alot refresh time.
Thanks
Laddie,
Right on! I have reported the Singers Database refresh issue and feel confident that MTU will look at it in due time. My personsl list is now almost 50 songs and I'm seeing the Singers Database window refresh what seems like anytime I do anything with it. It's a bit of a pain but the work around seems to help me.

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Old September 26th, 2008, 12:20 PM
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Question Dale or Jim

Does anyone know how large the Singers' Database is - i.e. how many Singers & Songs it will actually hold? I have 300+ songs just for me that I would like to add that I now have categorized on 6 different Playlists for when I do all the singing. This doesn't count my singers when I do karaoke.
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Old September 26th, 2008, 03:17 PM
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Does anyone know how large the Singers' Database is - i.e. how many Singers & Songs it will actually hold? I have 300+ songs just for me that I would like to add that I now have categorized on 6 different Playlists for when I do all the singing. This doesn't count my singers when I do karaoke.
I have heard nothing about limits on the Singer Database. We'll have an answer soon I'm sure.

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