Problems with newer PHM's/2.209

[gduns - with the Lord]

Tymzend,
MTU being the fine company that they are will come through, and take care of this problem I have no doubt. Things happen that are sometimes unexplainable untill it gets called to light enough.

Keep the faith. I'm sure they are working on this problem as we speak.....

[S. Parks]

gduns, I'm certainly not disagreeing with you, your points are very well taken, but MTU did weigh in and said they had tried these files on their computers, set up the way they configure them to sell with Hoster, and they also had the drop out. this restored my faith a bit, as I had applied all of their recomended solutions on my machines (2) with no possitive results. Why only the small percentage of people reporting the problem, I don't know. Maybe they only use one of these disc every great once in a while, who knows. Maybe what I would percieve as a loss in audio signal, someone else wouldn't notice. I have faith in the fine folks at MTU. they sort this one out.

[big daddy]

Maybe it shows on how many people choose not to purchase Pop Hits Monthly disks. I for one would not purchase these disks because I did not like filling up my disk collection for only 8 or 9 songs with the other half used for vocal demo. Now I using Hoster I don't have that problem so I decided to purchase them. Not sure I will continue, seems like I can avoid a problem by using a different brand. BGI DADDY

[S. Parks]

The Motown Original Artist series of disc will also do this audio drop out thing. These are great disc, with the original recording done to karaoke, you ought ot check them out if you haven't. The problem only occurs on the opening screen, when music is also playing.

[big daddy]

Was checking the status on the Pop Hits Monthly audio drop problem. I know you are working on a fix, just curious if you have had any luck or about how long it my be, have had to go back to using disks and I found I have been spoiled by the Hoster program. But since importing these new disks into my library I don't want to tell anyone they can't sing off a certain disk because the computer won't read it, so went back to disks until problem, is fixed. Let me know if we are close.
Thanks, BIG DADDY

[admin]

I am sorry to report we did not receive Stellar's discs, so we called them. They now refuse to provide us with discs to test with. We were very suprised at their refusal. Please note this accordingly in your future purchases.....................

We are still at ground zero. Now we have to find 2 or 3 of the PHM discs that you folks have mentioned here. We'll be on that next week as we are leaving town this afternoon and are out tomorrow also.

[tymzend]

Stellar just lost my business.

I'd send you my discs, but I have to use them until this is fixed, unless...............you know...

[S. Parks]

Admin, how many of the new PHM disc wuld you like? I'll loan you whatever you need.

[tymzend]

Admin,

Did you ever get these discs?

[S. Parks]

They have disc, and are working on a solution.

[tymzend]

WOOT!

Thanks!

[tiggallen]

good maybe they can get a fix would be great to use hoster again

[mikedomi]

just have one ??? here

you mean to tell me and others in here that you are not using hoster because of one type of disc and there cant be more than 20 disc at most
this is the only disc you have
what a waste of a great program

belive it or not there are better disc out there for the same money !!!

[tymzend]

Actually, every PHM disc that has a video fade in/fade out with audio at the same time, has this issue for me. That totals about 40 discs, which are over 50% of the songs played at one venue that we do.

People always sing the PHM stuff. Bought THM this month, don't mind it at all (or, at least the Rock stuff I've heard), so I'm switching over for the time being.

[S. Parks]

tymzend has a good point, not to mention, you don't want to tell your regulars that bring their own PHM disc, that you don't want to play their song becasue the audio drops out. IMO their qualtiy is not bad, and they often put out new releases a week or two before anyone else. You could start the old quality debate issue about one label verses another, but in the end, folks want to sing the version they are used to, (they seldom know or care if it is the most accurate or best version or not). I haven't sopped using the program, but I do use the disc player in my rack now for these, and a few other disc with the same issues.

[tymzend]

Same for me. I still use my CDG player for PHM stuff, unless the singer doesn't care (which has only happened twice). It's an inconvenience, but it's not the end of the world. Still will be glad when it's fixed.

[Azkaraoke4]

Wow this seems to be a serious problem here, I just thought I'd drop in because I havn't seemed to have had this problem. I have been using hoster for about 6 months and am thoroughly happy with it. I purchased 2.127 I believe and I chose not to upgrade until 2.213 came out. now when I play some of the phm, thm, rhm whatever, I get a little pop sound in the very beggining but it usually only last a second before the words come up. I get that with a few stardisks also. IS that the audio drop out your talking about? Or would I definatley notice it? I have two systems, one for home and one for shows. Both of them are equal in sound quality but both are completely different. What I mean is the hoster program sounds runs plays all the songs the same way. If I get a pop on a song on one system I get the same pop out of the same song on the other system. These are the jest of both systems.
1st
P4 2.8 hyper
1gig ram
2 120 gig hd's
Win xp pro
Internal plextor 708a
Behringer 12 channel mixer w/effects
qsc 2450 amp
2 sound factor speakers
Oh and an audigy 2 24bit with harware accel set to basic.

Ok 2nd

Athlon 2700 xp
512 mg ram
2 120 gig hd's
Win xp pro
External plextor 708 uf
a small 4 channel alesis w/ effects
2 jbl powered speakers
external audigy 2 24 bit
Wow I just noticed harware accel was set to full, I'm suprised that didn't cause me a problem. Hmm.. I better change it

Now what I wanted to throw out there since no one seems to have an answer to all of this mess is. How many of you having problems have used the volume leveling feature? Cause I was to exited when I started that I overlooked that. And maybe what compression each of you used? I used 96 on everything. Anyway just a suggestion, cause I know that if you are like me you will never go back to cd's unless you have to. Thats just not an option right?

Anyway thanks for the time......

[tymzend]

Not everyone is having the problem, even though MTU stated that the problem exists in the Hoster software, not the hardware you are using.

Now, you could have audio drops based on hardware configuration settings, but they have fixes for that stuff. These drops we are speaking of are related to the way the graphics code is done on PHM discs. When graphics fade in or fade out on the newer PHM discs, the PC acts like the graphics are too much, and the sound cuts out while the actual fade is happening. After that, it's fine. It tends to happen on the intro screen, if the music is playing when the intro screen comes up. Or, it will happen when the graphics fade out, going into an instrumental break in the song. Those are the most common parts.

Like I said, I don't know why it affects only some of us, and not the others.

If you have the PHM version of "I Love This Bar", or "My Immortal", try them out. Those both drop on the intro screen on my system.

But, MTU will get the problem fixed. Everything else runs flawlessly. Hoster is the coolest thing ever for Karaoke.

[tiggallen]

i very much agree the prog is great i didn't mean to sound like i was knockin the prog mtu is doin a good job at keeping up to date i just said i was waiting for that to start using the prog.

[MTUSUPPORT]

Anyone who is having the PHM problem, please test this version and let us know if it fixes your probelm.

[snip]

Please let me know what you find with this, by posting in this thread. I will be out of town from 9/02/04-9/05/04.

Admin note: Too many others are getting this version before we are ready to release it. I have removed the download link. If you have problems with PHM discs, and you are already posted in this thread, and you didn't get it earlier when we asked you to, Post here and I'll try to get it to you. Anyone else will have to wait until we release it.

I have changed the folder name so all prior download links are now invalid to get 2.215.