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Old November 21st, 2013, 10:09 PM
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Hoster and other program problems

Last night while I was running my karaoke gig, when I opened the search box in 5.11 and minimized the search box it totally dissappeared from the screen even the taskbar. I had to continue to open it everytime I did a search. When I minimized it it would go away again. I also had some singers who sing from Youtube at which time I minimize Hoster completely. Then the entire program disappears from the desktop, including the task bar. If I ctrl-alt-del it, task manager shows that it is running, but I can find it nowhere. I have to either log off or restart to bring it up again. Any suggestions?

I also uninstalled 5.11 from my laptop and when I tried to install 5.05 I got the error msg that it has already been installed on 2 computers. I booted off my backup hdd and removed it there and still got the same message. I finally booted my desktop on the 2nd drive and removed hoster then I was allowed to reinstall it on my Laptop. What goes with this? I have had this problem for many years now? I am also not able to reinstall microstudio or khpro. I just tried to run Songverter and got the message that my serial no does not match their records. I did the upgrade setup on it now it is okay?? Thanks Alan
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 05:44 AM
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Re: Hoster and other program problems

The latest release version for download is 5.10 there is no 5.11 to my knowledge except as a beta for testing.

I have experienced what you describe once myself regarding Hoster disappearing but still showing as running in task manager. As it only ever happened to me that one time I took no notice of it. I selected Hoster from the applications tab list and chose "End task" then restarted Hoster.
Does this happen to you regular ?

Regarding your registration problems.
When you say "I booted off my backup hdd " Hoster is designed to run from the C\drive, reading your post it sound like you are installing Hoster on various different drives on the same computer, is this the case ? if so this might be why you keep getting this problem with registration.
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 06:23 PM
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Thanks Roy. Once a long time ago Bryan replied to me when I had the same problem and suggested I clone my hdd. I use acronis true image 2012 and back up all my drives. I have four in my pc and 2 in my laptop. Of course you realize that the computer recognizes the hard drive that you boot off as your c drive. For as long as I can remember since uising any MTU product I am able use either drive I wish as a clone is an exact image of the source disc. The product I am using is Hoster 5.10 but when I check the version it shows 5.11. The registration problem seems to only happen when for some reason windows has me reactivate my product, whioch I don't why it does this either. Then when I bring up MTU progs I get the error message my serial no does not match their records. Sometimes songverter will go right back in and sometimes it won't. The other products do the same thing. I get the message that the program is installed on two computers even if I remove the programs.

The problem with Hoster just happened this past Weds while I was running my normal karaoke show. I had to reboot Hoster. As you said windows task manager said it was running as well as the search, but they were no where to be found. I removed 5,10 and reinstalled 5.05 and have not had a problem yet. I don't know how to get the version just before 5.10 I believe it is 5.09 Any other ideas. Thanks Alan PS I ripped 13,000 songs and added them to hoster easily thanks to you. Thanks again Alan
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 06:31 PM
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There is a 5.09 that is the prior version to 5.10.
Mtu is about to release another update shouldn't be too long if your still entitled to it version 5.20, keep a look out for it.
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 07:16 PM
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Thanks again. I just upgraded to 5.10 about 1 month ago.
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 07:25 PM
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Roy, I forgot to ask why there is a buy songs included within Hoster if you can't automatically have them imported while doing a show? I download songs via Tricerasoft which are Abraxa and SBI and am able to unzip them while singers mozy along and they are in the database. I do this alot as there are many new songs I do not have and this is easier and less expensive then buying new cd all the time. Thanks Again Alan
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 07:38 PM
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Have you watched the video that pops up explaining it when you click the buy songs button. I believe that once you have an account with them it's much like Tricerasoft, difference being I believe they are legal in US and Tricerasoft are only legal in Canada and the rest of the World.

I expect I'll start a big debate now stating that
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Old November 24th, 2013, 04:28 AM
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Thanks Roy, I do have an account with them. The last song I downloaded I had to separately import into Hoster as I do with Tricerasoft, which I thought that since all star was embedded into hoster they would have made it in some way or another imported automatically. This is the main reason I did the upgrade in the 1st place as far as everything else I was perfectly happy with 5.05 Alan
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Old November 25th, 2013, 05:52 AM
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Re: Hoster and other program problems

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Have you watched the video that pops up explaining it when you click the buy songs button. I believe that once you have an account with them it's much like Tricerasoft, difference being I believe they are legal in US and Tricerasoft are only legal in Canada and the rest of the World.

I expect I'll start a big debate now stating that
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What is your source for the above?

This link is the only thing I can find on the matter regarding Tricerasoft (other than their "Terms of Use").

http://nwentertainmentsolutions.com/orka/questions.html
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Old November 25th, 2013, 06:44 AM
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What is your source for the above?

This link is the only thing I can find on the matter regarding Tricerasoft (other than their "Terms of Use").

http://nwentertainmentsolutions.com/orka/questions.html
I knew I was going to start another legal argument when I posted that
Having just read your link and also the terms of use from the Tricerasoft site it sounds like they are legal, my mistake.

I thought they were the same as Selectatrack as according to this statement from a competitor forum PCDJ Karaoki : http://message.pcdj.com/phpbb3/viewt...nloads#p139441
If you can't read that post it is basically saying that PCDJ karaoki has had to pull the Selectatrack download link from it's list of built in download manufactures due to them not being allowed to sell in the US.
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I knew I was going to start another legal argument when I posted that
Having just read your link and also the terms of use from the Tricerasoft site it sounds like they are legal, my mistake.

I thought they were the same as Selectatrack as according to this statement from a competitor forum PCDJ Karaoki : http://message.pcdj.com/phpbb3/viewt...nloads#p139441
If you can't read that post it is basically saying that PCDJ karaoki has had to pull the Selectatrack download link from it's list of built in download manufactures due to them not being allowed to sell in the US.
I was able to see the post.

Didn't intend to start a legal debate.... Just trying to be on the look out for what is legal to use (I try diligently to stay that way) because I can't afford to be any other way but legal!

My library has cost me $1,000's and I sympathize with legit company's that have their work's pirated. On the flip side, I have "No Sympathy" for those who steal other's work's and glean a profit from it.

Thanks much for trying to keep us straight!
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Old November 25th, 2013, 03:06 PM
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Re: Hoster and other program problems

Thanks. I followed the link you provided and no where does it mentkion Tricerasoft as being illegal. So until I do see their site I will continue to purchase and download their songs. They do have Abraxa and SBI and sometimes Music Maestro. I do get a lot of request for new songs that I don't have, so this site makes it easy to download songs. Thanks Alan
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Old November 25th, 2013, 06:22 PM
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I just ask orka if tricerasoft is legal or not. Hopefully they will give a reply. I will post as soon as I hear something from them Alan
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Old November 25th, 2013, 06:33 PM
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This is a link I found explaining the myths and actual laws Alan

http://www.imaginelaw.com/lawyer-attorney-1196173.html
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