SND size - Problem solved by NOT using Arial Black font

[marklwood]

I have one little issue with the SND. I originally set my display to show 3 singers per line with 2 lines. I also show estimated time. I was playing around with the display settings and added a third line to possibly show 9 singers instead of 6. When I applied changes, the window size doubled to 4 lines worth of space. I changed back to 2 lines displayed and the window reduced to 3 lines of space. I tried changing fonts, font size, eliminating times and every other option I could see to change and I can't get rid of that extra line of space. I didn't make any changes to the intermission screen and it is still displaying correctly. I used the settings from the intermission screen to copy all the settings back to the show display to no avail. I ended up just enlarging the window and stretched the extra space off screen. The other way to make up for it was to hide the marquee, but I thought I might play around with different messages and didn't want to lose that.

[ddouglass]

Did you try closing Hoster and re-opening it to see if it corrected itself?
You could also try setting it to one line and then back to two to see if that will fix it.
I think your stretching the space limits trying to get 3 per line. Especially if you are showing name, title and elapsed time. The problem may be overflow which is causing it to wrap.

[marklwood]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Did you try closing Hoster and re-opening it to see if it corrected itself?
You could also try setting it to one line and then back to two to see if that will fix it.
I think your stretching the space limits trying to get 3 per line. Especially if you are showing name, title and elapsed time. The problem may be overflow which is causing it to wrap.

No, I am only showing singer's name and time. I tried setting to 1 line with no names in the list yet and it still takes up 2 line spaces. I tried just name with 1, 2, and 3 lines. Still has the extra line space at the bottom. I tried changing the font size to 4pt and various fonts but still no love. Like I said, I just stretched extra line space of the window down below the viewable area so it isn't noticeable to anyone but me. What is strange to me though, is the intermission screen was not affected. It's no deal breaker because once I start karaoke, there is not ever a break until closing time.

While writing this I just thought of something I didn't try. You gave me an idea when you suggested I may have overstretched the bounds of a line wrap. Even though I am not displaying more than 10-12 characters per entry with the name/time, it may have a default minimum spacing. I will try making the window wider tomorrow night and see if that will clear it up. I may have inadvertently made the window narrower when I was stretching it to fill the screen.

[madjim- with the Lord]

Hey Mark,
The SND uses HTML. Keep this in mind as you try different things, font type, font size, how many singers per line, yadda yadda. (I'm assuming you've worked with HYML, If not just ignore me. )

This may help or I may be preaching to the choir. Just a thought.

Let me know if this keeps giving you fits and I'll make some time and see what I can come up with. Showing more than three singers seems a little much to me but you know your clubs needs! We'll find a combo that works for you.

Jim

[marklwood]

Originally Posted by madjim

Hey Mark,
The SND uses HTML. Keep this in mind as you try different things, font type, font size, how many singers per line, yadda yadda. (I'm assuming you've worked with HYML, If not just ignore me. )

This may help or I may be preaching to the choir. Just a thought.

Jim

Yeah, I've tried all the combinations I could think of. I even meticulously copied all the settings from my intermission display which seems to be unaffected. I usually run a 30-45 rotation, so having 9 singers listed is almost a must. I would like to display 20-30 if I thought it would be legible. That's why I made the suggestion in New Features to use the extra real estate on a wide screen display. I could also use a third monitor if the windows were separated. 1 for me, 1 for the singer, and one for the audience. I would need to have the words doubled to the audience monitor though, so a wide screen format would be easier to implement for MTU.

[madjim- with the Lord]

Originally Posted by marklwood

I usually run a 30-45 rotation,

It's like that for me at my Tuesday night gig, normally an hour and a half wait to sing. I'm up, let me work with it on 4.04 beta 4 and see what I come up with.

Jim