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Old October 10th, 2007, 09:08 PM
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Cool what kind of mixer do you use

i have a Mackie Mixer with Crown or QSC amp, EV speakers & JBL, that i love.
wanting to build a second system, because i DJ a lot as well. Need tup update from low end Behringer mixer. What type of mixers are you all using? Does anyone use the vocopro mixers? or what is the best out there?

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Old October 10th, 2007, 09:35 PM
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I use an older VocoPro mixer (7000 model). I have had it for years, works well. I am in the process of looking for somthing newer myself. I was looking at the newer Vocopro models, but I have had a hell of a time trying to get in touch with VocoPro to ask questions. I would be interested in others KJ/DJ responces too.

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Old October 11th, 2007, 06:25 AM
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Wouldn't use Vocopro if they paid me & gave me their products to demo. I use Mackie mixers personally.
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Old October 11th, 2007, 09:35 AM
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Behringer Xenyx 2222FX Mixer run through a Kustom amp.
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Old October 11th, 2007, 09:48 AM
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Behringer 1404FX, nice clean effects and sound fed to two JB Eon 15 powered amps, also really clean sound.
Make a great, light, compact, arrangement for any venue. Always get compliments on sound as compared to the 1/2 dozen other guys in Central Maine.
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Old October 11th, 2007, 03:20 PM
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Hey Lonman what model do you use with Makie?

I have a Vocopro, it is one of the first they made, I am looking for a new one. I do hear Mackie one of the top line manunaftures. Any suggestions on models? Something that would work well with Karaoke...

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Old October 13th, 2007, 12:33 PM
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i have a Mackie Mixer with Crown or QSC amp, EV speakers & JBL, that i love.
wanting to build a second system, because i DJ a lot as well. Need tup update from low end Behringer mixer. What type of mixers are you all using? Does anyone use the vocopro mixers? or what is the best out there?

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i wouldn't touch a vocopro or a behringer mixer i had a behringer i bought it caused it was not that expensive( i only had it for a month and used it 2x ) and just to try it , i can't remember the model but it's was a digital board with all the efx..i sold it less that i paid for it to a friend who was just starting a karaoke business..
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Old October 13th, 2007, 03:56 PM
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I guess it depends on what Behringer you have and what amp and speakers you are using. I l have gotten many compliments on my sound and the reverb effects for the Microphones from quite a few band singers. I believe the one Bryant is using is about the same as the one I have. Hey, as long as the singers are happy, thats what its all about. I have checked out some of the competition around here and most don't even have a monitor speaker on stage. My singers like to be able to hear themselves.
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Old October 14th, 2007, 02:25 PM
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i wouldn't touch a vocopro or a behringer mixer i had a behringer i bought it caused it was not that expensive( i only had it for a month and used it 2x ) and just to try it , i can't remember the model but it's was a digital board with all the efx..i sold it less that i paid for it to a friend who was just starting a karaoke business..
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Old October 14th, 2007, 04:14 PM
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Cool Mixers

Just my opinion, but, you can take just about any type mixer and get a good sound if you have the speakers to match up. We can argue the pros and cons of all mixers and never agree. The best mixer won't get good sound without quality speakers, but a cheap mixer can get good sound with high quality speakers. Each mixer has its own little things we like and dislike. Sometimes we buy the name, "Allen & Heath, Mackie", Etc., but that doesn't guarantee you will get good sound. It is a combination of Mixer, effects, sound processors and quality speakers and you must add a person with a little sound knowledge to the mix.
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Old October 14th, 2007, 04:24 PM
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what do you mean by sound processor? I am not new to singing, but am new to running sound!
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Old October 14th, 2007, 05:20 PM
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what do you mean by sound processor? I am not new to singing, but am new to running sound!
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sound processors are an outboard equipments that can recreate or restores audio to theire original sounds..
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Old October 15th, 2007, 06:18 PM
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what do you mean by sound processor? I am not new to singing, but am new to running sound!
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Basic sound processors that many use:

Effects processor - reverb, delay, chorus, etc..
EQ processor - to adjust tonal shaping, feedback control & tuning the room to match your speakers.
Compressor processor - Keeps vocal signals in check/balanced so the screamers are a little more manageable levels.
Sonic Maximizer processor - A frequency aligner which was designed to aide in speaker deficiencies but also thickens & brightens the final sound.
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Old October 14th, 2007, 04:42 PM
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Just my opinion, but, you can take just about any type mixer and get a good sound if you have the speakers to match up. We can argue the pros and cons of all mixers and never agree. The best mixer won't get good sound without quality speakers, but a cheap mixer can get good sound with high quality speakers. Each mixer has its own little things we like and dislike. Sometimes we buy the name, "Allen & Heath, Mackie", Etc., but that doesn't guarantee you will get good sound. It is a combination of Mixer, effects, sound processors and quality speakers and you must add a person with a little sound knowledge to the mix.
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Old October 14th, 2007, 05:37 PM
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Just my opinion, but, you can take just about any type mixer and get a good sound if you have the speakers to match up. We can argue the pros and cons of all mixers and never agree. The best mixer won't get good sound without quality speakers, but a cheap mixer can get good sound with high quality speakers. Each mixer has its own little things we like and dislike. Sometimes we buy the name, "Allen & Heath, Mackie", Etc., but that doesn't guarantee you will get good sound. It is a combination of Mixer, effects, sound processors and quality speakers and you must add a person with a little sound knowledge to the mix.
Just an opinion
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i kinda agree and dis-agree with you.. i have tried a few boards outhere..and im kinda partial to mackies i've used behringer for a few days and plugged in my mackie powered speakers.the sound quality is not not that great.even with my processors plugged in ( BBE sound maximixer , 266 DBX compressor /gate, MPX Lexicon 100 dual channel proc. and an Aphex Aural Exciter ) i've tried the Boise tower speakers in which in my opinion is great for playbacks not for vocals..but anyway its just my opinion, and i agree with you , you have to have a bit of knowledge to do a mix..
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Old October 14th, 2007, 08:29 PM
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It is a combination of Mixer, effects, sound processors and quality speakers and you must add a person with a little sound knowledge to the mix.
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I think we all know that.
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Old October 15th, 2007, 11:27 AM
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I think we all know that.
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From the reading of post concerning sound, i'm pretty sure everyone in this forum does not know this. That is why they read and post opinions and ask questions. I understand that most who read and post here are very knowledgeable about sound, but, we immediately had a post asking what are sound processors, who added he was new about sound and wanted to know more to help him run a better show. What i was attempting to do was point out to him was no matter what equipment one buys, sound must be developed. I have a friend who uses Radio Shack mixer and Nady mics combined with powered EV speakers and his sound is unbelievable. Go figure.

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I use a Yorkville AudioPro 818 for shows that I need my own power, and a Soundcraft Spirit M4 for shows that have in house power.

But whatever you use, you have to set it properly for the venue, and adjust depending on how full it gets throughout the evening, don't just set it and forget it or it won't sound good.
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Old January 18th, 2008, 12:15 PM
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VocalPro 8000

I've been using this mixer for 4 years and love it. It comes with all the RC jacks you could want and a great sub channel. Been using EV Force speakers and remote EV mikes sytem works and sound super, I've been looking at the the Mackie 200 watt powered board because ofit's size and power amp is perfect for most gigs, but until I get a few more gigs I'l stay with the VCP. Billy-Bob
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Old January 18th, 2008, 09:44 PM
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Don't take this the wrong way but I think vocopro's are for beginers. they are ok but limited I do like the duel decks, but they have a problem cue'ing up pop hits and I use my computer to play most songs. I don't like their limited echo. but they are one of the only ones that i thinks is "made for karaoke". Again just my veiw I stick with the mackie's.
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