Sorry To Hear Everbody's Problems

[billyo]

i'm sorry to hear everybody's problems ( i shouldn't say anything caused i havent upgraded yet ) but i've been reading the same problem over and over and my thing was ," and this is only a suggestion " i know that most of us have either 1 or 2 ( maybe 3 ) laptops/pc's ,( one for back-up ) why do the upgrades on all of them at the same time? with all the glitches the new version are having. just upgrade one of 'em, so we don't have to worry about if hoster will be working on our gig that night, or losing our gig to other kjs.so that way the people of mtu wont be pressured and also will give them time fixed all these glitches and not to worry about people losing theire gigs..and for those that only have one laptop/pc maybe using your cd's and a player will get you through. i think ive said these before oh well just a reminder

[kedmison]

Originally Posted by billyo

i'm sorry to hear everybody's problems ( i shouldn't say anything caused i havent upgraded yet ) but i've been reading the same problem over and over and my thing was ," and this is only a suggestion " i know that most of us have either 1 or 2 ( maybe 3 ) laptops/pc's ,( one for back-up ) why do the upgrades on all of them at the same time? with all the glitches the new version are having. just upgrade one of 'em, so we don't have to worry about if hoster will be working on our gig that night, or losing our gig to other kjs.so that way the people of mtu wont be pressured and also will give them time fixed all these glitches and not to worry about people losing theire gigs..and for those that only have one laptop/pc maybe using your cd's and a player will get you through. i think ive said these before oh well just a reminder

Have to agree to a point. Last weeks gig was saved only because I hadn't had time to upgrade my backup to 4.02. BUT, I've never feared upgrading any program with MTU. I've been with them a long time. This bump in the road is not a normal occurrence for them. And when they get it fixed I have an idea that it won't happen again.

Kelly

[billyo]

Originally Posted by kedmison

i dont have any problem upgrading too , just have issues with sp3 thats why i havent done it yet, without my issues with sp3 i'll probably would be one of the people in here asking for a solution to all the glitches that's happening now, but still i wont upgrade both of my laptops at the same time, specially upgrading hours before a show..

[johnocolin]

If a reputable software company(as MTU is) tell me that they have new software that has been through several months of Beta testing and it is working and bugs are fixed then i have to believe that when i upgrade.The software is not for free.Money doesn´t grow on trees.And what about those customers that have found MTU for the first time and have bought their first copy of Hoster for a couple of hundred dollars!.What goes through their head when faced with these sort of problems?.What dissapointment.
Sometimes i think as a final BETA test they should give the upgrade to some of us Non IT type people to run on their systems.With all due respect to the BETA testers,sometimes as in all walks of life,if you do something too much or too often or you´re too professional,you tend to overlook the simple things.
I can only back this up after reading that the BETA testers seem not to have had the problems that so many of us have had.But i don´t believe for one minute that we´re all making mistakes and don´t know our a--- from our elbows!.
And what p´s me off the most is when i hear.."why didn´t you close it down and use 3.4" or "all you have to do is close Hoster and restart each time it doesn´t take long!".That´s not on,is that part of the Help manual?.
If i buy 4.xx it´s because of the new features that appeal.The Karaoke music is the same.I think even MTU have realised that If it works don´t fix it!.The old code was tried and tested but a decision was made to try something new and it kinda backfired in my eyes.It has probably cost MTU a little piece of credability too.Hopefully we will be back on track soon.
Don´t take it the wrong way,the reason i´m p´d off is because i´ve been a loyal customer of MTU through the years and have nothing but praise for previous Hoster versions up to 3.16/19 and have even persuaded a couple of friends to buy it.I even waited for 4.02 because i read of all the problems with 4.0 and 4.1 and then when they said the bugs were fixed i dived in.
Anyway i´ll wait for 4.03(have no choice now) and see what gives.

[Beavis]

if MTU software was like everyone else's, it would be pirated insantly ! everyone isnt a one man show around here !

how hard would it be to steal all your kma's and get a pirate version of hoster ?? if they opened it up, it would be easy !

they take pride in security !

if anyone is to blame here it microsoft !


also, it shouldnt be put an your everyday household computer that has had hundreds of programs installed on it !

THIS IS SERIOUS SOFTWARE !

[billyo]

Originally Posted by johnocolin

If

i'm with you on that, believe me i had my share of dis-appointments, i learned from my mistakes, i had bought all kinds of recording gears, virtual dj softwares etc. spent hundrends maybe even thousands ( not to that extent a little bit over 3 )and most of them are now collecting dust in my garage, i'm like other people if it looks good and have nice features ill buy it, not thinking if its gonna work on my laptops/pc's, read all the reviews, but there is always that 1 hidden clause after dowloading the software "comp. requirements must have or not compatible with" and these are not printed on boxes that the software came with..and you can not return the product once you open that little cd inserts ,unlike mtu, mtu has a money back guarantee if it doesnt work for you return it, wait till all the glitches are fixed ,(and if i'm not mistaken mtu has a noticed that the new version will only work with xp and mtu are still working on vista,and still a lot of vista user are still downloading the new version ) then buy it again..those beta testers are not a paid mtu employees and they are working theire butts of just to help all of us, ( i dont even think they sleep) so the lesson here is it's because the product looks good and have nice features that doesnt mean its gonna work until you meet all the requirements..if you have 2 laptops/pc's upgrade 1 not both of them at the same time..

[ddouglass]

Just to add to what Billyo has said and correct your misconception, the Beta Testers are not all computer wizards. We are a group of people with wide varied experienced, with only a very few who are experienced computer techs. MTU selects a wide group like this for the very reason you stated. Most of us are not having all of these problems because we have tweaked our systems to work with Hoster. That is not to say that none of us also have seen or still have some problems with it.
This is what the few of us who are computer savvy enough try to do for everyone in here who has a problem. And yes Billyo we do sleep (at least once or twice a week ).

[T and J Karaoke]

I tried to update my microsoft sp3 and it failed. I don't know why it failed but it did. My laptop which is vista didn't show any errors when I did the updates. But my xp did. What do you think I need to do in order to get the new hoster on my xp one. I want to play with it before I decide to put it on my laptop. I am having registration code issues and put in a call tag for that. Hopefully they will respond soon.

[ddouglass]

SP3 was just for XP so it wouldn't effect you Vista computer.
How did SP3 fail? Blue screen? Or an error message? This makes a big difference in why and what to do to fix it.

[Beavis]

hey dale,

one of my home computers also wouldnt install some updates including sp3.

also when i do a fresh intall, i always update the computer then clone it to another hard drive and make a back up image.

[ddouglass]

Mine won't install some of the updates for Office 2003 according to Microsoft....well DUH I have moved on and installed Office 2007. The problem is I still have one component of Office that is 2003 (Front Page) so Microsoft thinks I need these and so does Belarc.
Beavis run the Belarc Advisor and see what is missing or not installed correctly. Could be one you missed a while back that SP3 needs to complete its install.

[Beavis]

it wouldnt even install anything.

it was a while ago and i reformatted.

sometimes a hate searching for the problem, it takes 100 times longer !

[billyo]

Originally Posted by T and J Karaoke

I

soon.

i have the same problem problem, i got the blue screen when i loaded sp3 2x, we're in the same boat, still running 3.317 ( no complain here still running w/o any problems )

[laddie]

Originally Posted by billyo

i have the same problem problem, i got the blue screen when i loaded sp3 2x, we're in the same boat, still running 3.317 ( no complain here still running w/o any problems )

Does it load in safe mode? If so it may be a driver issue. The best thing to do is to call MS support for SP3.

[billyo]

Originally Posted by laddie;[QUOTE

79661]Does it load in safe mode? If so it may be a driver issue. The best thing to do is to call MS support for SP3.

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wont load in any mode, which one of the drivers you think may be causing this ? but anyway thanks for the suggestion, but for right now i'll stick with the old version, ( need to work on it later, right now i have to stocked up on bottled water we're under storm watch " welcome to south fla. " )

[TheMusicGeek]

Originally Posted by T and J Karaoke

I tried to update my microsoft sp3 and it failed. I don't know why it failed but it did. My laptop which is vista didn't show any errors when I did the updates. But my xp did. What do you think I need to do in order to get the new hoster on my xp one. I want to play with it before I decide to put it on my laptop. I am having registration code issues and put in a call tag for that. Hopefully they will respond soon.

I can help you with your SP3 issue if you wish. I will need the svcpack.log file which should be in your c:\windows directory.

[jon_and_angel]

I, like many here, depend on MTU's Hoster to do my karaoke shows and also like many here have had lots of trouble.....most, if not all since going to using Vista. Downloaded the newest demo version that is supposed to work with Vista, which did nothing for me but immediately erase my cd drives and lock up when I try to run it. Am I ready to give up on MTU/Hoster? NO WAY!! Hoster, for all the trouble it is having right now (mostly due to Microsofts disastrous operating system, Vista) is still far and away the ABSOLUTE BEST program on the market for running shows. MTU will have to stay on their toes to keep it that way, cuz others are gaining ground fairly fast, but for now they are at the top of the game. The product is on the way to great things, the support is getting better as time goes on, and I will be waiting when all the loose ends are tied up.
To all of the naysayers on here, I say PATIENCE......

[T and J Karaoke]

I had to get with tech support with microsoft. come to find out it was some kind of system problem I was having. But we got it working. Now if I load the new hoster am I going to have problems, Oh and my laptop which is my show computer is vista. If I load the new hoster on it am I going to run into all these problems I see on the board. Please say No! MadJim I know you are the testing guru!!!! Are you running vista as well? I can't wait for mtu to record!!!!!!!!

[ddouglass]

The Vista problems have been fix and most of the existing problems are in the minor catagory. They are working on more of these currently to get out version 4.04 soon.
As long as your computer is current on updates, meets the requirements listed, and has the latest drivers for it, then you should not have any problems installing it. Most of the problems that have been showing up involve one or more of the above listed items.
This does not mean everything is perfect in Hoster. If you use Videos (VCD, etc) then the Mux ability to cutoff the vocals is not fixed yet. Zip files are still being hampered by a bug that requires them to be entered new in any playlist to get them to play or converted to MP3+G (unzipped) to function from saved playlists. If these are not problems that will affect you then install 4.03.

[T and J Karaoke]

I have alot of files in a hard drive that are zipped files, I usually load them through the zip part in the import from hard drive. Are you saying that this does not work at all? If so that keeps me from converting it to a bin file then making it a kma. Darn I hope not.