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Old August 13th, 2008, 08:21 PM
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4.0 Hoster Don't work after 4.2 install

I removed Hoster 4.2 after having a lot of problems

(Win XP pro Comp. 3 months old )

Reinstalled 4.1 didn't work properly and wound not play all my files including 3.4 or import from my cd.

But Microstudio was able to play all files that was not working in 4.1 or 3.4.

Was told to remove 4.1 completely to remove gremlins from 4.2.

Used control panal to remove Hoster and then removed Hoster folder in program files and in MTU folder.

I even ran my registry cleaner (Winaso) to make sure every thing was gone for a clean install.

Reinstalled Hoster 4.0 it started to rebuild my songs folder files before program started.

When Hoster 4.0 started I was shocked to see all my Instabuttons singers button and all the 4.2 layout like before but now the program is not usable any more it takes to long to do anything when I checked to make sure of the version it was 4.0.

Now what do I do?

I'm spending way to mush time on this with no solution in sight.

And the problems are getting worse


I need to work a show thursday night 08-14-08 and all weekend.


MY COMPETITION WOULD LOVE TO SEE ME FAIL SO THEY CAN MOVE IN ON MY GIG> PLEASE DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO ME.


Last week I went through the same hell after installing the very mush BATA TESTED Ver. 4.2


HOW DO I GET HOSTER 4.1 TO WORK AGAIN LIKE BEFORE I INSTALLED 4.2.



PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE



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Old August 13th, 2008, 08:50 PM
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If you have 3.321 or a previous version prior to upgrading to 4.xx & it did work.......... you might want to consider going back to it for now. From what I have read by Admin, 4.03 should be out very soon and should solve all the problems users have reported with all the 4.xx versions. I believe it will be worth the wait.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 02:11 AM
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Joe,

Please read this whole post before you do anything, Thanks.

Be sure that your KMA files are not in any of the folders that you delete.

1. unistall whatever version of Hoster you are using

2. delete the C:\Program Files\Micro Technologies Unlimited\Hoster folder

3. delete the C:\MTU\Hoster folder.

4. reatart your computer and install 4.01 (If you upgraded from a previous version of hoster, you may have to install it then upgrade to 4.01. Try to install 4.01 with just your upgrade code first, I think it will work.)

This will give you a clean reastart of Hoster, you will have to set 4.01 up the way you like it from scratch. I'm not sure about the instabuttons. If you started using the singer database, be sure to save the "singers.mdb" in the C:\MTU \Hoster folder. Put it in another folder or on a jump drive. Put it back into the C:\MTU\Hoster folder after your 4.01 install and your singer database will show up.

HINT:
If you are unsure of what files to keep, save the folders in steps 2. and 3. on a jump drive berfore you delete them. Be sure the jump drive is unplugged fronm the computer while you install and setup 4.01.

I believe you can get 4.01 up and running for your show.

If this does not work for you, do as suggested by Skybird and go back to a version previous to Hoster 4.

I hope this gets you going.


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Old August 14th, 2008, 07:52 AM
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Thank You Madjim for your input


I did exactly what you discribed in your helpful responce I also restarted my computer and rescaned with my registry cleaner again before continuing with the 4.0 istall,

Why can't I get 4.2 out of my computers hard drive.

Is it because of some protection scheme or some other folder/files that MTU is not telling us about that's at work here in my system and wont let older programs to install as they did before?

Is this the problem I will have to live with until they get it right for 4.3 or 4.XX and possibly lose my gig.

why can't an MTU programer help me resolve this problem with there program.

I Just want to get Hoster 4.1 installed and running like before in my computer. Please

It's not my fault that this is happening to me.

It all started when I installed Hoster 4.2 last week of this I am certain.

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Old August 14th, 2008, 08:16 AM
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Joe,
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Thank You Madjim for your input

You're welcome.


I did exactly what you discribed in your helpful responce I also restarted my computer and rescaned with my registry cleaner again before continuing with the 4.0 istall,

Did 4.0 install for you?

Why can't I get 4.2 out of my computers hard drive.

It should uninstall:

1. Go to Control Panel

2. Go to "Add or Remove Program"

3. Select Hoster

4. Click on "Remove"

Is it because of some protection scheme or some other folder/files that MTU is not telling us about that's at work here in my system and wont let older programs to install as they did before?

No

Is this the problem I will have to live with until they get it right for 4.3 or 4.XX and possibly lose my gig.

If it's not fixed. We are trying to get you going Joe, please work with us. Nobody wants you to loose a gig but that is ultimatly up to your actions. We can get you going if you let us but we can't keep your gig for you. I recommend you get a backup system.

why can't an MTU programer help me resolve this problem with there program.

They are busy building Hoster 4.

I Just want to get Hoster 4.1 installed and running like before in my computer. Please

It's not my fault that this is happening to me.

It all started when I installed Hoster 4.2 last week of this I am certain.

We want you running too Joe. Please calm down, take your time and follow our directions. Also we need calm, accurate reports from you. You posted this big report and the only thing that is clear is that you are upset.

Why is it you are the only one having this "can't uninstall 4.02" problem?


I see you followed my directions? Did they work?



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Old August 14th, 2008, 09:05 AM
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Joe,
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Old August 15th, 2008, 03:32 AM
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Why can't I get 4.2 out of my computers hard drive.
Just a stab in the dark ... is it possible that your 'hoster402setup' installation file is incorrectly labelled 'hoster401setup'. In other words, is it possible that although you think you are installing 4.01, for some reason you're actually installing 4.02?

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Old August 15th, 2008, 07:57 AM
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Madjim
Sorry about the confusion,
I posted these problems before with a detail explanation and I’m explaining it in different ways to see if someone can come up with an answer.

When I wrote (installing 4.0 comes up with 4.2 features) I’m talking about the instabutton and the singer’s database those features as far as I recall was not in Hoster 4.0.

Again I did previously post what I did after installation of Hoster 4.0 and I did what you suggested and yes the version was Hoster 4.0.

And yes I did restore to a earlier point and that did not help as far as my song files just kept getting errors on a lot of my song files when I checked those files with microstudio they all play and worked fine no problems but not in Hoster 4.1 or 3.4.

Again I posted all this detail on previous post since last Thursday 8-07-08.

Please I do appreciate everybody’s input in helping me with this problem.

But no one from MTU has tried to help me resolve this problem that started when I installed Hoster 4.2 everything before then was working fine.


Hi BEECEE

Thanks for the input

No

All my Hoster install files are in one folder and are the same ones that I originally used to install Hoster 4.0 4.1 and 4.2 I also verified that version after install in the help menu.

Thanks Joe....
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Old August 15th, 2008, 12:35 PM
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Hoster 4.0

Hey Joe, I installed Hoster 4.0 now nothing works it locks up won't play the music, lost my earlier version of Hoster this sucks. i am working on windows xp, everything was working fine until I upgrade to Hoster 4.0 . I have tried everything that I can think of to repair it with no luck. Wish I had my previous version back, bought something that I can't get to work.
Sorry about your problems.
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Old August 15th, 2008, 12:39 PM
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hey jim, why dont you restore your computer to a time when everything worked ?
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Old August 15th, 2008, 01:16 PM
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hey jim, why dont you restore your computer to a time when everything worked ?
He says he tried that Beav, It makes no sense to me why system retore works for us but not for him. The only thing I can think of is that some of his KMA files have become corrupt and won't run on any version of Hoster so he thinks it's the the program. I just suggested he use the backup copy of his KMA's (if he has it) that have not been used in Hoster 4.

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Old August 15th, 2008, 01:25 PM
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when i hit a wall like that, i reformat, it takes only 2 hours with all windows updates.


i sure hope he has a back up hard drive or his kma's
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Old August 15th, 2008, 01:31 PM
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i sure hope he has a back up hard drive or his kma's
Me too.

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Old August 15th, 2008, 02:17 PM
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Hoster 4.0

Tried resetting my computer to an earlier time, that didn't work.
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Old August 15th, 2008, 02:28 PM
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Hey MAD JIM

What have you been drinking and talk about emotions.

I'm looking for solutions not confrontation with a BIG shout like you.
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Hey MAD JIM

What have you been drinking and talk about emotions.

I'm looking for solutions not confrontation with a BIG shout like you.

I'm sorry Joe I was out of line. MTU doesnt' need me to stand up for them. I see where I got emotional, please forgive me. My intentions were to help.

(My respones were in large print/caps to be easy to read, I'm old and blind. I was not shouting at you and I'm sorry if you got that impression.)


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Old August 15th, 2008, 02:46 PM
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Hey Joe, I installed Hoster 4.0 now nothing works it locks up won't play the music, lost my earlier version of Hoster this sucks. i am working on windows xp, everything was working fine until I upgrade to Hoster 4.0 . I have tried everything that I can think of to repair it with no luck. Wish I had my previous version back, bought something that I can't get to work.
Sorry about your problems.
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Jim you do have the previous version. Hoster 4.0 includes 3.321 in the install. It has been modified so that it will work with the 4.0 registration.
Go to C:\Program Files\Micro Technology Unlimited\Hoster and find a file called Hoster34.exe. Create a shortcut to it and put it on your desktop. Open it and you have the old version of Hoster.
I don't know how many times it has been said in here and on the download pages of MTU web site to SAVE rather than RUN when you download the program files, so you can reload if you need to.
If you would like some help with your problems with 4.0 please start your own thread in this forum and we will gladly try to help. Please be as detailed as you can. The more details the easier it is to figure out what needs to be done.
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Have we tried deleteing Hosters registry. I've seen info for it in the faq's but I can seem to find it at the moment.

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Angry Hoster 4.02 problem

I'm having a problem with the program not changing my singers unless I hit the SHOW button and for some reason the Auto button doesn't seem to do anything.
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Are you referring to the times? If so it does not change until the end of the current playing song. It is there as an estimate not to countdown while a song is playing.
Auto will not start until you hit play for the first song after setting it, then depending on the number of seconds you have set for it in the tools menu you should see the status of the next song change to WAIT and then to CUE.
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