beep tone when highlighting search title.

[N181RV]

There is probably a solution in the manual for this problem, but I haven't found it yet.

Problem: In the middle of a show Last night, I made a song "search" for a particular song title. A half dozen showed up in the list in the "search" window. I hit left mouse button to highlight one of the titles and I got a beep.

Every time I click it to highlight a title and even after the title is already highlighted, I get the beep. It was not doing this previously.

It doesn't happen when left clicking any thing else on the computer or in the Hoster program.

It actually is loud enough to be heard, but of as short duration.

Anyone had this before. Any ideas?

Thanks, Phil in Illinois

[ddouglass]

Go to Control Panel/Sounds and Audio Devices and open it. Click on Sounds Tab. In dropdown window choose No Sounds click OK. That will turn off all the little annoying sounds Windows makes when you do things on the computer. This will not affect any output through your sound card.

ADMIN NOTE: Good advice for the expected "normal" solution, but it didn't work. This beep is a Vista BUG! Read on...

[N181RV]

I already had sounds disabled, but went there and double checked it and "No Sounds" is selected.

All computer sounds are shut off except this one little beep.

Don't know if Hoster got a glitch in it or if Vista got a glitch, but one of them is doing something they shouldn't be doing.

ADMIN NOTE: This beep turns out tobe a Vista BUG! Read on...

All other sounds are shut down.

I just get a single short duration beep when I hit left mouse button when I high lite a title listing on the search window. If I double click it, it only beeps the first click and then it adds it to the play list on the main Hoster window.

I am thinking I may need to reload the hoster program. Since I am new to all this hard drive song stuff, I don't know what that will require or what it will do to my existing database. luckily, I backed up the database on an exterrnal harddrive so things can't be too bad for old Phil.

Saturday night, I had a Hoster shutdown in the middle of a song. The program came back up ok and the playlist was ok like they say it will be, but later when I did a search for a song that a singer wanted, the songs pulled up but I got a beep when I high lited her brand of cdg. It has been doing it every since. I will try all suggestions and keep playing with it until i figure it out.

Tnx for your advice and still open to any more advice.

Phil

[ddouglass]

Phil, Hoster does not have anything to do with the sounds, so no need to reload. Check your mouse settings in the control panel. Maybe something in there controls sounds for it.

ADMIN NOTE: Good advice, but this beep is a Vista BUG! Read on...

Are you refering to a customer import as those unfortunately don't come back after a crash and have to be re-imported. If it was one of your loaded songs then you may have a corrupt file for that song.

ADMIN NOTE: That's incorrect. If you have imported songs into your Playlist from discs your Singer's bring in, they WILL remain in the playlist and on the hard drive after a crash and restart of Hoster. All will be fine, in the same order, ready to play. That's part of MTU's Failsafe design to keep your show running even after a crash. NOTE: Once an imported song plays it's imported image is deleted, AND... when Hoster closes normally, all imported CDG tracks are deleted to keep you legal, yet allow you to play tracks from your Singer's discs.

If you do reload Hoster it will not erase your database or the song files.

[N181RV]

Ok Dale, Tnx alot.
I will keep fiddling and I will let you know what I find...

Phil

[admin]

Dale is right. The beep is something Vista is creating. We haven't found a work around other than don't use Vista.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by admin

Dale is right. The beep is something Vista is creating. We haven't found a work around other than don't use Vista.

Now why didn't I think of that.

[mindonstrike]

I've been going through mine and can't figure out how to turn it off.

I found the wav file for it (windows ding.wav) and changed its name so windows couldn't play it but instead it switched to a nasty buzzer sound that was way worse than the ding.

It's strange that individual sounds can be turned off in XP but not vista.
I think what you can do however is record a small wav with no sound, name it "windows ding.wav" and replace the original with it.

Sam

[mindonstrike]

I think what you can do however is record a small wav with no sound, name it "windows ding.wav" and replace the original with it.

OK so I created a replacement "windows ding.wav" file that is silent. I went to the folder where sounds are stored renamed Microsoft's file to "windows ding old", and moved my new "windows ding.wav: file into this folder.

Sam

[N181RV]

From my short experience with Vista, I think it is going to be a lemon....

Dale says don't fix it if it ain't broke, Or fix it till it is....
seems like they did fix it until it was broke...

I was using XP Pro and was just getting real comfortable with it, then they "fixed" it....

Phil in Illinois

Originally Posted by admin

Dale is right. The beep is something Vista is creating. We haven't found a work around other than don't use Vista.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by N181RV

From my short experience with Vista, I think it is going to be a lemon....

Dale says don't fix it if it ain't broke, Or fix it till it is....
seems like they did fix it until it was broke...

I was using XP Pro and was just getting real comfortable with it, then they "fixed" it....

Phil in Illinois

If it wasn't for Microsoft, I would never have thought to use that saying.
I have never trusted Bill Gates since he made a statement back in the early days saying "640K is all the memory anybody will ever need."

[sleflar]

What I did was load the ding wav in Cool Edit a audio editing program and silenced the file. No more problem.

www.starsoundsproductions.com

[billyo]

Originally Posted by admin

Dale is right. The beep is something Vista is creating. We haven't found a work around other than don't use Vista.

thats why i havent loaded my vista software upgrade..i was told by a friend who works for dell tech support not to load it for about 6 months. too much problem..some of the drivers on xp are not compatible with vista..

[mindonstrike]

I found another workaround for this that's a little less drastic and probably easier for those who don't like messing with files.

Click the speaker icon in the tray at the bottom right of the screen. When the volume slider comes up there is a "mixer" button at the bottom of it. Click "Mixer". Now you will have a volume slider for the speakers, a volume slider for Windows sounds and assuming Hoster is open you'll have a slider for Hoster.
Click the Mute button below the Windows Sounds slider and it should silence the Windows Sounds without affecting anything else.

This is how it is setup and works on my computer, hopefully other folks will have similiar setups.

Sam

ADMIN NOTE: Good advice, but not the solution yet. Read on...

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

If it wasn't for Microsoft, I would never have thought to use that saying.
I have never trusted Bill Gates since he made a statement back in the early days saying "640K is all the memory anybody will ever need."

I remember working at a place & the 'new' network that was being installed, the guy told us if you'd never need more than a GIG of hard drive space - that would be insane! ALthough this was back in the late 80's too! My home computer at the time has 256 MB hard drive lol.

ADMIN NOTE: Love the "color" and humor you guys are adding in here as this solution is unfolding. We paid $400 in 1973 for a 125KB floppy drive (yep... Kilobyte... that's 1/1000th of a Megabyte and 1/1,000,000th of a Gigabyte). Our customers could store hundreds of word processing documents on it, and it was removable media. Ah... the good ol' days when storage needs were so small...

[N181RV]

funny how things advance. My first computer was one I built up. It cost 1200 bucks and was a clone XT. we bumped it up to almoat AT speed and it was really special because we built it with two 640 K floppy drives. We could read from one and write to the other. It was very sufficient. This was only in the late 80's. First hard drive was a 10 meg "winchester'. It too turned out to be enough at the time.

I always wanted a 20 meg Seagate but they cost about $420 at the time. That time went by so fast, it went from MB to GB in a year or so. Now you go to WalMart and buy a 80 GB USB for about $80. And I just read that 1000 GB disks are here now that spin at 12000 rpm.

Well back to fighting Vista, I mean Lemon....

Everyone on this forum has been helpful. I wish I could post something that was helpful to anyone.

Have a good day everybody.

Phil

[Karaoke Kiwi]

I have taken to using the Search to find the track and manually type the Book id into Hoster in the background et viola! no noise. Using the volume mixer route didn't work for me. Like the idea of substituting a silent .wav tho'

ADMIN NOTE: Excellent work-around, but not the solution yet. Read on...

[sleflar]

It seems a shame that we really have no choice but to have Vista anymore without going through a massive change to convert the hard drive to XP so we can use the Hoster program without having this Beep problem. I hope someone can figure it out since it doesn't seem to be going away any time soon.

New users of the Hoster program are going to think the problem is Hoster. Not good for Hoster.

ADMIN NOTE: Hey... why is it that the Application is always the fall guy? This is a Microsoft BUG! Read on to see how this story unfolds...

www.starsoundsproductions.com

[xxyzz]

Originally Posted by mindonstrike

I found another workaround for this that's a little less drastic and probably easier for those who don't like messing with files.


Click the speaker icon in the tray at the bottom right of the screen. When the volume slider comes up there is a "mixer" button at the bottom of it. Click "Mixer". Now you will have a volume slider for the speakers, a volume slider for Windows sounds and assuming Hoster is open you'll have a slider for Hoster.
Click the Mute button below the Windows Sounds slider and it should silence the Windows Sounds without affecting anything else.

This is how it is setup and works on my computer, hopefully other folks will have similiar setups.

Sam

I was really hoping this would work but it did not. RATS!!

[mindonstrike]

Having separate sliders for programs and windows sounds must be something provided by my soundcard and not Vista. Looks like using the silent sound file is the best if not the only way to go at this point.

Sam

ADMIN NOTE: Further proof it is not Hoster as individual users find various solutions for their computer setups. Read on...