Vocal Cancel

[bobcox- with the Lord]

Love The New Look and fetures in Hoster 3.0, But I Wish When you select
left or right vocal it would stay there as it does on a cd+g player so i dont have to keep going back to it for every song. I always use Left mono for karaoke. Keep up the great work, and Merry Christmas To All. Bob

[songpony]

I gotta vote against retaining this setting. I really doubt that most KJs run consistently on a single channel, and odds are that a very low percentage of their songs are multiplexed. I would much rather see it selected on a song-by-song basis, with the default being all channels, since that's what your songs will be 99% of the time.

[bobcox- with the Lord]

Karaoke Should Always Be Played On Left Chan Mono, Never In Stereo. As Recomended By Pioneer, Sony, And Many Others. Left Chan Mono Does Not Mean You Only Get Music From One Speaker. But You Do Get Same Quality Sound From Both. Bob

All KJs I Know Run In Mono, Only DJs Use Stereo. Just My Two Cents.

[kj n texas]

I would prefer to leave the vocal control default in the stereo mode, with a manual overide for multiplex. Most of my music, approx 95% of my cdg's, is performed in the stereo mode. I only switch to mono mode when a disc is multiplexed. I tend to purchase more stereo music than multiplex.

Just my thoughts,

kj n texas

[S. Parks]

these guys are definitely right about the bridged mono configuration...always the best for karaoke. As for Hoster, it will let you choose how to import these tracks so you don't have to change settings back and forth. Please DON'T change this function.

[songpony]

I use a Bose speaker system which handles combining the left and right channels, so I prefer to use the stereo output from my mixer and let the equipment combine things appropriately.

[mindonstrike]

Stereo signals will have some instruments or parts of an instrument on one channel and other instruments or portions of it on the other channel. This is how it gives the illusion of having a live band in front of you. If you simply turn off one channel you are losing the instruments that were on that channel. Multiplexed music TENDS to be a mono signal to begin with but with lead vocals as well on one channel or the other, which makes it possible to turn off the vocals without the music suffering.
To run stereo music in mono you need to combine the signals not just chop half of them off. Some mixers will combine a stereo signal for you and give a mono output, otherwise you need to use a "Y" . It would be handy if Hoster (or my soundcard software) would have a mono option, but using the L/R option for stereo signals is not the best way to go.
I ran karaoke in stereo for 5 years with great results, since changing to a BOSE PAS system I've had to switch to mono. 6 of 1, half dozen of the other.

IMHO
Sam

[gduns - with the Lord]

I also run karaoke in stereo...... much better sound.

As far as retaining the left mplx settings. Mark the song (in the manual how to). edit the songs later, and it will save these setings for that particular track. you can also select it when importing, and it will also remember. when you do the edit it changes it in the songs database as well as in the file header it writes. so you wont loose this setting when you do a database rebuild.

[cartunesdj]

Originally Posted by gduns

I also run karaoke in stereo...... much better sound.

As far as retaining the left mplx settings. Mark the song (in the manual how to). edit the songs later, and it will save these setings for that particular track. you can also select it when importing, and it will also remember. when you do the edit it changes it in the songs database as well as in the file header it writes. so you wont loose this setting when you do a database rebuild.

I have been importing tracks using the very latest version and I have yet to find a place to select multiplex and which channel the vocals are in.

I do see it in the edit songs screen, but not the import screen.
I have edited all my multiplex tracks in the edit screen. I can see the changes in the table (showing multiplex 'yes' and vocals on 'right'). However, when these tracks are added to the play list, the settings are not automatically set so the vocals are eliminated. I have to manually click the button (hopefully before the song (singing) begins.

Is there a way to set this per song so I can relax a little between tracks?

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by cartunesdj

I have been importing tracks using the very latest version and I have yet to find a place to select multiplex and which channel the vocals are in.

I do see it in the edit songs screen, but not the import screen.
I have edited all my multiplex tracks in the edit screen. I can see the changes in the table (showing multiplex 'yes' and vocals on 'right'). However, when these tracks are added to the play list, the settings are not automatically set so the vocals are eliminated. I have to manually click the button (hopefully before the song (singing) begins.

Is there a way to set this per song so I can relax a little between tracks?

Are these songs imported from disk or the hard drive?

[cartunesdj]

from the hard drive...is there a difference?

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by cartunesdj

from the hard drive...is there a difference?

Only because I noticed this with mp3g's (MPX imported from disks worked fine)about 6 months ago and until now nobody else had. I've only got a couple and they were songs that never got sung so I never made a big deal of it.

If memory serves I think I came up with a workaround, but I'll have to play with it a little to remmber what it was.

Sam

[mindonstrike]

Ok heres the workaround I came up with

Take a CDCDG type KMA (song imported from disk) - Any one it doesn't matter, or import a MUX song from disk - Use edit songs to change it to MUX. Now when you start Hoster play that file, even if just for a moment and from there on your MUXed HDKMA's will work as they should, at least until you close Hoster.

I came up with this a couple of versions ago and didn't get time to double check with 3.303, but that part of the program hasn't changed much since then so it should work.

Please post back and let me know if it worked for you.

Sam

[gpayne]

I have been importing tracks using the very latest version and I have yet to find a place to select multiplex and which channel the vocals are in.

I do see it in the edit songs screen, but not the import screen.
I have edited all my multiplex tracks in the edit screen. I can see the changes in the table (showing multiplex 'yes' and vocals on 'right'). However, when these tracks are added to the play list, the settings are not automatically set so the vocals are eliminated. I have to manually click the button (hopefully before the song (singing) begins.

Is there a way to set this per song so I can relax a little between tracks?


Admin. Will this be fixed in Hoster Version 3.1? I have just imported 1234 multiplex songs from bin files. I had the same problem as seen above. I changed all the settings in the edit songs menu but when added to a play list they do not change to right vocal. I have seen the workaround for it but I would like to see it fixed.

Thanks

gpayne