Songbook

[xurne]

I have Hoster 3.3 and am trying to print new song books with Word. I am having all kinds of trouble. I am printing the song name and artist name. Here is an example of one problem: The song name, artist name and book id # are too long to fit on one line. So two lines are used. No big deal but the artist's last name is on the first line and first name is on the second line with the disk id #. The previous version of Hoster put the whole name on the second line.

A bigger problem is when the song name and artist name are just long enough to fit on one line, the book id # gets cut off and half a # gets printed. Say 3-02 is the book id #, the 2 may only be half printed, or the 3- gets printed and the 02 is not there at all. Other times the 3- is on the first line and the 02 is on the second line. Still other times all the 3-02 is on the beginning of the second line and not lined up on the right with other book id #'s. There is at least one song where the song name and artist name are at the end of one page and the book id # is on the next page at the beginning of the line and not the far right lined up with the rest.

I never had these problems with earlier versions of Hoster. Is it me or what? I need to get my books reprinted, but they can't be printed untill these problems are fixed. Please help!

Patrick

[Skybird]

I believe you're referring to formatting problems. Each program has different ways of formatting margins and columns and those can usually be changed under "page setup". Changing your settings should fix the kind of problems you are talking about. Hope that helps.

[xurne]

Thanks for the reply. I had to move the artist's name to the second line with some songs to get things to line up properly, but it is printing correctly now. Thanks again.

[KickinKaraoke]

Well there something I don't like.

In all prior versions to 3.3 when printing by artist you could put the discID right after the title. Now in 3.3 it drops to the line below. No no no this is no good. I have over 17000 songs to print and this is a total waste of space. Can we move the discID back to where it was before.

[Skybird]

I asked this same question a few days ago. I guess it's not a priority with all the other important things MTU is doing. I thought if this isn't changed back to the way 3.120 did the Artist list before I get ready to print my new books, then I would just put all that info in the book by Song Title and then leave out the Disk info when pritning the Artist's list. Most of the time people do look up the title first and only go to the artist when they can't remember the name of the song. Guess they'll just have to refer bck to the Title list if they want to see the different disks that song appears on. That would at least solve the problem of the Artist book being so large! Newer singers of course don't have any idea which version they want to sing & will ask me anyway. So, when I pull up that song title, I can choose which version to play for them.

[lmcmains]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I asked this same question a few days ago. I guess it's not a priority with all the other important things MTU is doing. I thought if this isn't changed back to the way 3.120 did the Artist list before I get ready to print my new books, then I would just put all that info in the book by Song Title and then leave out the Disk info when pritning the Artist's list. Most of the time people do look up the title first and only go to the artist when they can't remember the name of the song. Guess they'll just have to refer bck to the Title list if they want to see the different disks that song appears on. That would at least solve the problem of the Artist book being so large! Newer singers of course don't have any idea which version they want to sing & will ask me anyway. So, when I pull up that song title, I can choose which version to play for them.

Are you talking about the Disc number as in Sound Choice, Chartbuster an ect?

[Skybird]

Yes, just like kickinkaraoke explained. The previous songbook by Artist, puts the version info (don't think you're supposed to name the companies) right behind the name of the song, and then the Book ID#, all on 1 line. In version 3.3, under the Artist, you now get the name of the song and book ID on one line and then the version (Disk ID) on a second line. In other words, if you have 3 versions of the same song, to show that info in the Artist Book, it will now use 6 lines instead of 3 lines to show the same information.
In the song book by title, the version information appears on the same line as the song followed by the Book ID, so everything appears on 1 line instead of 2 - which only happens when you show the same songs by Artist.

[lmcmains]

I see what you mean now. I used to print my books with it printing the company disc id. I quite doing that. I try to keep only SC and CB versions in when possable. Sometimes the song in on another brand and not one of those. I reason I quite doing it that way is the singer would sometimes write down the company name and number of the disc. Then some of them ask me which numbers do I use. So I just have artist, song name and hoster id number. I have very few dup. songs in my books. I have 20,250 KMA files. The only dups I keep is for people that have been doing karaoke with me for 7 or 8 years and they are used to another version. 85% of my songs are SC or CB

[Skybird]

I thought about editing out some duplicates, but I'm not sure which ones to get rid of except maybe some newer disks. Many of my singers are used to PI and DK which is what I started out with. I'm just so afraid if I take out the newer versions that that will be the one they have been used to from going somewhere else. I just moved to this area, so I have all new singers and I am new to them as well. Any thoughts would be helpful.

[songpony]

I did the same as lmcmains - pretty much got down to a single version of a song, unless there were significant differences (in which case I'd list the difference in the song title - ie. slow version, fast version, etc.). The only dups I kept other than that were if some of my regulars had a "favorite" they were already familiar with. I dont keep that version in my books so it doesn't confuse the new people looking, but the regulars have the song # (book ID) written down that they like best.