Why does Hoster assign Disc ID as XYZ.....

[Trevor]

Hi, I'm trying to import mp3g files off my hard drive. Everything goes fine until I click on "add files" in the final window before it actually imports the songs into Hoster. Whatever I put into the Disc Id box, (next to the Brand box,) gets changed to XYZ....
For example, I select "Sunfly" in the "Brand" dropdown box, and I type "SF001" into the disc Id box (there are no drop down choices in here, unlike when importing from discs) I select "next" for the Book Id root, and it gives me, say, 431.
As soon as I press "add files", the Brand remains as Sunfly, but the disc Id changes to XYZ0431, and greys out.
Any reason?
Also, not all of my mp3g files are named correctly, so can I use the Hoster database to fill in the names, tracks etc automatically, like when importing from discs?
Yours hopefully
Trev
I'm using Ver 3.300 by the way

[bryant]

I am in the same dilemma as Trevor is. I can import all my custom discs and label the book ID's and brand names to match my current songbook numbers. However, I would like to do this from the HD bin files as well. Some of my discs have been stored on a hard drive and I have noticed it is much faster to import them from the HD than from the disc(only 1 step and NO reading the disc). But if I do import from the HD, I can't keep a naming system that is consistent with the ("CDG - imported songs"). This would be a nice feature to add to future versions. It wouldn't seem to difficult to do, either. Should this be posted elsewhere for this, Admin?

[gduns - with the Lord]

I think the reason for using a numerical only format for the bookid/song number is because it is easier to remember a number than a combination of letters and numbers. Especially if your clientelle is drinking impaired.

IE: cbes4-23-01 vs 42301

Just a guess

[Trevor]

Sorry guys, you seem to be missing the point a bit, I'm wondering why the Disc Id isn't staying as I typed it in, ie: SF001, I know that the book id will be say 43501, but the disc id is changing from SF001, to XYZ0435. of course this only shows up if you search for a particular disc type/number. But I like to be able to look in the KMA storage folder and see which discs are missing from any particular manufacturers collection. Up to now, they're listed as SF001-1 etc, but XYZ435-01 doesn't tell me any useful information.

[gduns - with the Lord]

I will look when I get home, But I have never had it mark any as xyz### this sounds like a bug it is so.

[djmadmaxx]

I have a handful of HD files i converted a month ago and it has the XYZ also.. it didn't really make a difference to me since i use KJ Pro for the songbooks.

[admin]

Moved this to Open Discussion.

There was a reason we coded XYZ. I don't remember it now, so I'll have to research it.

[nreel]

In Hoster, the Brand and DiscID for Sunfly 001 is:
Brand=Sunfly
DiscID=SF001

In order for Hoster to add Sunfly 001 correctly, your files would need to be named:

SF001-01 - Abdul, Paula - Straight Up
SF001-02 - Michael, George - Faith
SF001-03 - Idol, Billy - White Wedding
SF001-04 - Waite, John - Missing You
SF001-05 - Wilde, Kim - Keep Me Hanging On
SF001-06 - O'Connor, Sinead - Nothing Compares 2 U
SF001-07 - Stansfield, Lisa - Change
SF001-08 - Seal - Crazy
SF001-09 - 10CC - I'm Not In Love
SF001-10 - Simple Minds - Alive & Kicking
SF001-11 - Eurythmics, The - Thorn In My Side
SF001-12 - Young, Paul - Senza Una Donna
SF001-13 - Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Relax
SF001-14 - Adams, Bryan - Everything I Do, I Do It For You
SF001-15 - Blondie - Heart Of Glass

It doesn't matter if you have the ARTIST listed before the TITLE, but, you absolutely need SF001-xx.

If the files are NOT named this way, you can't expect Hoster to add the Correct DiscID, even if you selected manualy. Hoster analyzes what you manually type in and compares it to the true DiscID of the files in the FILE LIST WINDOW. IF they aren't the same, Hoster says it is an UNKNOWN DiscID and assigns XYZ.

[bryant]

NReel: Yes, you are 100% correct, but in a case like mine where the files are listed by Title and artist only as they are in my custom discs, I cannot name my custom discs off of my HD as they get renamed to the "XYZ022" thing. You see, some files on my HD are in a folder titled the same as the disc that was customized for them. It would be extremely quick if I could follow the same instruction you gave me for the customized discs and a whole lot faster because the bin files convert so quickly. Why would they not consider this nReel, any ideas. The way it is now, and as you stated, I would have to rename all the HD files to include disc# and track# and that would further slow down the process.
Bryant

[nreel]

Posted by bryant

in a case like mine where the files are listed by Title and artist only as they are in my custom discs, I cannot name my custom discs off of my HD as they get renamed to the "XYZ022" thing. You see, some files on my HD are in a folder titled the same as the disc that was customized for them. It would be extremely quick if I could follow the same instruction you gave me for the customized discs and a whole lot faster because the bin files convert so quickly.

Hoster CAN make things "Extremely" easy for you. You just have to make it "Extremely" easy for Hoster!

Let's say you had these files on your hard drive:
10CC - I'm Not In Love
Abdul, Paula - Straight Up
Adams, Bryan - Everything I Do, I Do It For You
Blondie - Heart Of Glass
Eurythmics, The - Thorn In My Side
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Relax
Idol, Billy - White Wedding
Michael, George - Faith
O'Connor, Sinead - Nothing Compares 2 U
Seal - Crazy
Simple Minds - Alive & Kicking
Stansfield, Lisa - Change
Waite, John - Missing You
Wilde, Kim - Keep Me Hanging On
Young, Paul - Senza Una Donna

Rename the files so that YOUR DISC NUMBERING is at the beginning followed by a SPACE DASH SPACE to get this (you DO NOT need Trk Numbers as Hoster will assign them. Hopefully, you burned your Disc in the SAME Alpha Order so that Hoster's Trk assignment will be the same as your Disc TRK ORDER. If not, you will need to ASSIGN Trk numbers...what a pain):
370 - 10CC - I'm Not In Love
370 - Abdul, Paula - Straight Up
370 - Adams, Bryan - Everything I Do, I Do It For You
370 - Blondie - Heart Of Glass
370 - Eurythmics, The - Thorn In My Side
370 - Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Relax
370 - Idol, Billy - White Wedding
370 - Michael, George - Faith
370 - O'Connor, Sinead - Nothing Compares 2 U
370 - Seal - Crazy
370 - Simple Minds - Alive & Kicking
370 - Stansfield, Lisa - Change
370 - Waite, John - Missing You
370 - Wilde, Kim - Keep Me Hanging On
370 - Young, Paul - Senza Una Donna

All files for a particular disc can be renamed in an instant with a good file utility program...such as...Total Commander...Shareware Located at:
http://www.ghisler.com/download.htm

which is a FULLY functioning program with NO time limitation. There is nag screen where you have to click a number from 1 to 3, in which, the program tells you which number to select, in order for the program to OPEN completely.

In the Import Tracks/Import Hard Drive Files, you would:
01. Click BIN
02. Navigate to the Folder where the BINs are stored
03. Click Select
04. Click on the first Track in the File List Window
05. Define the Field Order by:
a. Selecting DiscID in the 1st Box
b. SPACE DASH SPACE in the 2nd Box
c. Artist in the 3rd Box
d. SPACE DASH SPACE in the 4th Box
e. Title in the 5th Box and the PERIOD (.) in the 6th Box
06. Click Add Files
07. Select Custom Assembly as the BRAND
08. *Note that the number 370 is automatically entered as the DiscID
09. Enter 370 into the BookID Root Box
10. Click Import Files
Done - Nothing like spelling out the whole Manual

When the Import Process is done, you will have:
1. DiscIDs of 370-1, 370-2, etc. in your KMA Folder
2. Be able to access Disc 370 via the Brand Button by selecting the Custom Assembly BRAND, DiscId 370, and Trks 1 thru xx.
3. Be able to access individual Trks from Disc 370 via the BookID Box by entering 37001, 37002, etc.

Simple