Multisession disk problems

[myrtle]

I have my songs in Hoster now, but have been unable to load about 12 songs that are the last songs on their disk. I tried going to microstudio and doing a duplicate a multisession disk. I did finally get one song after working for hours. This might work for some but not for me. Would Chartbuster have a way to help me get these songs and how could I get in touch with them? I hope Hoster comes up with a better plan. I really need things to be simple. I'm not a computer Guru, I'm just trying to make my Karaoke sessions easier. At this point I'm stuck. I don't want to give up those songs so I would have to play disks now and then along with my computer. That's not right. I had hoped Hoster would be more like Music Match Jukebox where you would scroll down the song list til you got to your song. I will get used to this if I can just get all my songs.Myrtle

[flipper]

Do a search in the microstudio forum on "Multisession Discs" and you will find plenty of information on how to extract the last track from these type of discs. If you have microstudio it should not be a problem if you follow the instructions. It took me a while to get the hang of it, but now it is easy.

Flipper

[George]

Originally Posted by myrtle

Would Chartbuster have a way to help me get these songs and how could I get in touch with them? ..... I had hoped Hoster would be more like Music Match Jukebox where you would scroll down the song list til you got to your song. Myrtle

Think this through for a moment...Chartbuster put multisession copy block on their product so's you couldn't copy their music, so why would they help you get around it?

Hoster is not just a player that lets you scroll down the contents of a cd to play a track. Some of these guys have upwards of 30000 songs loaded into Hoster. Can you visualize scrolling down through all that to find Xanadu?

Flipper has pointed you in the right direction. There are workarounds to the multisession problem posted in the forums.

Don't blame Hoster, vent your frustration at Chartbuster.

Take care,

George

[CochrellGary]

myrtle, check this link:
http://forum.mtu.com/showpost.php?p=30115&postcount=4

[dlessnau]

I use DiscJuggler for duplicating my CDG's as that is what I had before I started using Hoster. I made a compilation CDG consisting of the 15th song that would not import in many discs.

I then was able to import that new compilation disc into Hoster as a custom CDG.

[gpayne]

Originally Posted by myrtle

I have my songs in Hoster now, but have been unable to load about 12 songs that are the last songs on their disk. I tried going to microstudio and doing a duplicate a multisession disk. I did finally get one song after working for hours. This might work for some but not for me. Would Chartbuster have a way to help me get these songs and how could I get in touch with them? I hope Hoster comes up with a better plan. I really need things to be simple. I'm not a computer Guru, I'm just trying to make my Karaoke sessions easier. At this point I'm stuck. I don't want to give up those songs so I would have to play disks now and then along with my computer. That's not right. I had hoped Hoster would be more like Music Match Jukebox where you would scroll down the song list til you got to your song. I will get used to this if I can just get all my songs.Myrtle

I just purchased the Chartbuster Esential 450 V pack. As far as I know this is the latest version of the essential 450 series out. You must enter all song titles and artists as these songs are not in the latest version of hoster. This is how I got around the problem with track 15 not importing and it is what is recomeded by other folks on this forum I believe.

1. I imported 14 songs off of each disk and they went on just fine aside from all the typing.
2. I then used Microstudio to import the disks again but when I did it, I typed in all the information for all tracks including track 15.
3. Before I imported them, I went to the play tab and played track 15 and timed it to see how long it was.
4. I wrote this number down and went back to the import tab.
5. I clicked on import selected songs and watched as it imported the first 14 tracks.
6. When it started track 15, I turned on my stopwatch(acutally used the stop watch function from my cell phone) and waited until the amount of time that I had written down elapsed.
7. Then I hit the eject button on the Plextor burner. A message comes up saying that it falied to read track such and such and so on.
8. I hit the cancel button and the import terminated itself. If you go back and look in the directory you were importing to, you will find the track is there.
9. You must then go back and burn a custom disk of all the tracks that belong to that particular disk. After you have done this, you can then import track 15 from that disk into hoster.
In retrospect, I probably would have imported into Microstudio first, burned the custom disk and then imported into hoster. This may be a little complicated but it does work! Anyone, please correct me if I am wrong!

Hope this helps
gpayne

[Wallymeister]

gpayne,
I agree with what you have posted except the part about timing Microstudio on the extraction of track 15. I use a percentage method instead.

e.g.
If the last track is listed as 7:15 sec. (will always be excessively long on multisession discs) but the song is actually 3:50 sec. I do this.
Convert each to sec.
(7 * 60) + 15 = 435 sec.
(3* 60) + 50 = 230 sec.

Now divide to get percentage 230/435 = 53%

Now when microstudio is 53% complete on track 15 hit the eject button.
I believe this will get you the closest possible to the actual length of the song so you don't have excessive silence at the end of the song. This can be a bother if you use Auto mode in Hoster.

After you have successefully extracted the song load it from HD into play tab of Microstudio and play it to see that you got the entire song without chopping off end or getting too much silence at end. If unsatisactory, try again.

Wally

[nreel]

I already Private Messaged myrtle on what FREE program to get in order to deal with Multisession discs.

However, my Private Message has not been read by myrtle.

So, my conclusion is that myrtle doen't want to be helped.

[gpayne]

Originally Posted by Wallymeister

gpayne,
I agree with what you have posted except the part about timing Microstudio on the extraction of track 15. I use a percentage method instead.

e.g.
If the last track is listed as 7:15 sec. (will always be excessively long on multisession discs) but the song is actually 3:50 sec. I do this.
Convert each to sec.
(7 * 60) + 15 = 435 sec.
(3* 60) + 50 = 230 sec.

Now divide to get percentage 230/435 = 53%

Now when microstudio is 53% complete on track 15 hit the eject button.
I believe this will get you the closest possible to the actual length of the song so you don't have excessive silence at the end of the song. This can be a bother if you use Auto mode in Hoster.

After you have successefully extracted the song load it from HD into play tab of Microstudio and play it to see that you got the entire song without chopping off end or getting too much silence at end. If unsatisactory, try again.

Wally

I see what you are saying! I will try that also just to see how it works. It seems like it would be a lot faster. The only way I know of to tell how long the songs are is to go to the play tab and start the song so it will display the time for you. I have found that it does not make much difference if you go over as long as Microstudio does not time out. It might even be there even if Microstudio times out but for a 7:15 minute track you would be waiting for some time to find out. Thanks for your input. There is almost always more than one way to do something.

See ya

gpayne

[Wallymeister]

Originally posted by gpayne
I see what you are saying! I will try that also just to see how it works. It seems like it would be a lot faster. The only way I know of to tell how long the songs are is to go to the play tab and start the song so it will display the time for you. I have found that it does not make much difference if you go over as long as Microstudio does not time out. It might even be there even if Microstudio times out but for a 7:15 minute track you would be waiting for some time to find out. Thanks for your input. There is almost always more than one way to do something.

gpayne
Yes you still have to play the song to see the actual length of it. I play the song in my CDG player to see the length of the song. That way I can fast forward to the end. (or SC list at the beginning of each song it's length I just add 10 seconds to that)

As I stated, the reason I do this procedure is so I don't end up with 20 or 30 seconds or sometimes even more silence at the end of the song. This way allows me to more closely manage this. (you see by the time microstudio hangs up or you do a real time clocking of the ripping process you will probably have alot of silence on the end of the song)

If this doesn't bother one then no problem but, it get's my goat good.
Later,
Wally