upgraded to latest version of lite

[MrMark]

I have two laptops one has the full version of hoster and the other has the latest update of hoster lite....I take this as a back up....when I try to load my .kma files into the database and add a folder...it gives me a warning that parameters are incorrect? How come I can't load my folder of .kma files into holster lite....I also notice the all the upgrades it has adding a bunch of new formats....when it means indexing...does this mean I can add...mp3's ...videos...and zipfiles to use on holster?

[mykaraokedj]

Well don't fee bad. I can't load .kmh files either. Let me know if you find out something. I get that whole "paramaters not found" aslo.

[MrMark]

Originally Posted by mykaraokedj

Well don't fee bad. I can't load .kmh files either. Let me know if you find out something. I get that whole "paramaters not found" aslo.

I will let you know...glad im not the only one

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by MrMark

I have two laptops one has the full version of hoster and the other has the latest update of hoster lite....I take this as a back up....when I try to load my .kma files into the database and add a folder...it gives me a warning that parameters are incorrect? How come I can't load my folder of .kma files into holster lite....I also notice the all the upgrades it has adding a bunch of new formats....when it means indexing...does this mean I can add...mp3's ...videos...and zipfiles to use on holster?

When you say latest version of Hoster Lite is it 5.03 ?
Was this upgraded from an earlier version Hoster Lite or a fresh install ?
5.03 database is not backward compatible with 5.02 or earlier but should be upward compatible.
What version is your full old version?

[MrMark]

my lite version was a fresh new buy 5.01 i just upgraded it to 5.03 I didnt seem to have the problem with the fresh install using my harddrive I use for the full version which is 4.**** What do you mean backward compatible and forward compatable?

[Roy Dennis]

I'm a bit confused here so just trying to understand what you are doing.
From what I understand 5.01 Lite was working OK, you upgraded this to 5.03 with your old hard drive connected that you use for the old version 4.xxx and I assume it worked and played OK.
Or am I understanding this wrong up to this point ?

When you first started this Hoster version 5.03 with your external drive plugged in it would have rebuilt the database to suit the extra database fields used in 5.03. Once this is done the songs.mdb can not be used in an earlier version.
Now you say when you try and add your kma files into the database

Are you trying to load more kma folders into version 5.03. or 4.xxx?
Are you trying to do this via the Build Database Add folder tab in 5.03 or by copying the songs.mbd as this last option won't be compatible.

What I mean by forward and backward compatible is you can use files created in 4.xxx and they will work in 5.03 but you can't use files created in 5.03 in version 4.xxx. to the best of my knowledge.

As to your other question, Yes the newer versions of Hoster support Indexing videos and mp3.

[Roy Dennis]

One other thing I don't quite understand why did you update the light version that only allows 1 install ? If you had updated your full version you would be allowed to install that on 2 computers.

[MrMark]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

I'm a bit confused here so just trying to understand what you are doing.
From what I understand 5.01 Lite was working OK, you upgraded this to 5.03 with your old hard drive connected that you use for the old version 4.xxx and I assume it worked and played OK.
Or am I understanding this wrong up to this point ?

When you first started this Hoster version 5.03 with your external drive plugged in it would have rebuilt the database to suit the extra database fields used in 5.03. Once this is done the songs.mdb can not be used in an earlier version.
Now you say when you try and add your kma files into the database

Are you trying to load more kma folders into version 5.03. or 4.xxx?
Are you trying to do this via the Build Database Add folder tab in 5.03 or by copying the songs.mbd as this last option won't be compatible.

What I mean by forward and backward compatible is you can use files created in 4.xxx and they will work in 5.03 but you can't use files created in 5.03 in version 4.xxx. to the best of my knowledge.

As to your other question, Yes the newer versions of Hoster support Indexing videos and mp3.

I had two laptops...one got stolen...I purchased a new one 64bit windows 7 and just purchased the new lite version compatable with 64bit....it was cheaper for me in time instead of buying the the update for the older full version...I cloned my harddrive from the songs I use on the 4.*** Verson. I took the cloned harddrive and plugged it into the 5.03 update it asked me to build database...when I went to add the folder of my .kma files it said wrong parameter...and won't load my .kma files....sorry I purchased the 5.01 never used it went to use it it had an update...so the 5.03 is the first time i even looked at the new program and try to add the songs...and yes it did ask me to load songs into datbase which I tried....I like my older version and didnt want to mess with it...so I purchased the new one also because it supported a lot more video and audio files....

[Roy Dennis]

I have forwarded a message to Admin to take a look at this as I'm a bit stuck. If others have the answer they may post here, I doubt Admin will see it before tomorrow.

[ddouglass]

My suggestion is you put in a Support ticket and let Support have a look at this. They have ways that can let them see exactly what is going on.

[mykaraokedj]

All i know for myself is i went from 5.02 to 5.03 and then was tryint to rebuild my database..i cant add any klh files.. help

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by mykaraokedj

All i know for myself is i went from 5.02 to 5.03 and then was tryint to rebuild my database..i cant add any klh files.. help

There should be no trouble going from 5.02 to 5.03 providing 5.02 was working correct at the time.

If all your song files are on an external hard drive it would have been necessary to have had that plugged in while doing the upgrade, then you should have seen a dialog box before Hoster opened that it was rebuilding your Database.
So my first question to you is are all your existing song files on an external hard drive or on the C:/ drive ?

If they are on the C:/Drive did you see the rebuild dialog before Hoster screen loaded completely or did you stop it building ?

If you started Hoster 5.03 without having your external hard Drive connected straight after the installation, what I would do is open your C:/MTU/Hoster folder, find the Songs.mdb and delete it.
Then plug in your external hard drive then start Hoster and it should build the new database with all your original files in.

If all your files are on your C:/ drive it should have built the new Database automatically unless again you did not let it finish.
Whichever way I should delete the songs.mdb and restart Hoster and let it rebuild it's new Database.

[mykaraokedj]

It was working correctly when i upgraded. My files are on the c drive, dont use external. I might have stopped the rebuild, cant remember. But initially all my songs were there. I then deleted all songs using the exclude folders because i wanted to start over and do new releases only books because i got in new karaoke this weekend. So i went to my exclude list and unecluded everything so i could start over with the new klh files firt but now i get that parameter error message everytime. I will try removing the. Mdb file first and then try to my rebuild and see what happens.. will keep ya posted

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by mykaraokedj

It was working correctly when i upgraded. My files are on the c drive, dont use external. I might have stopped the rebuild, cant remember. But initially all my songs were there. I then deleted all songs using the exclude folders because i wanted to start over and do new releases only books because i got in new karaoke this weekend. So i went to my exclude list and unecluded everything so i could start over with the new klh files firt but now i get that parameter error message everytime. I will try removing the. Mdb file first and then try to my rebuild and see what happens.. will keep ya posted

I know this thread was started by MrMark who had Hoster Lite, is your version Lite or the full version ? I ask this because in the full version the songbook software allows all sorts of ways to select which tracks to print.
Like Date added, genre, bookk Id, Hide in songbook, etc.

Don't use the exclude folders for this purpose because it removes those files from the database but still retain all their book Id's in the Kma or kmh files. Then if you add new files it will likely use those book ids for the new files, then when you try to bring the previous folder back in you will have duplicated book Id's. This could be where you have gone wrong.

When adding new tracks Hoster adds the next id from what is stored before it, I think that by removing folder it takes it that those book id's are free so start your new imports from there unless you enter your own (Not always a good idea) it has to be a unique # not used previously.

I'm not sure how this is going to affect what happens now if you follow what I said about deleting the songs.mdb.

The only thing I can think of at the moment is to delete all the files that you imported after you used the exclude folders option then try placing that folder back with the add folders option, then do the delete songs .mdb restart hoster, let it rebuild as it should have before, then start adding your new songs after that.

Then use the options of the songbook to select which to print.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by mykaraokedj

It was working correctly when i upgraded. My files are on the c drive, dont use external. I might have stopped the rebuild, cant remember. But initially all my songs were there. I then deleted all songs using the exclude folders because i wanted to start over and do new releases only books because i got in new karaoke this weekend. So i went to my exclude list and unecluded everything so i could start over with the new klh files firt but now i get that parameter error message everytime. I will try removing the. Mdb file first and then try to my rebuild and see what happens.. will keep ya posted

By stopping the database rebuild you kept it from converting the 5.02 database and singers database to the 5.03 versions which have more indexing in it. So yes you will need to delete the songs database and rebuild to get it right.

[mykaraokedj]

it worked. Now my singers db is a different story. I don' know how to get that back.. unless... I get my backed up signers db (thank god I did that) and overwrite the one that's there now (which has NO singers lol) and then when I open up hoster it should try to rebuild it. We will see.

[Roy Dennis]

Originally Posted by mykaraokedj

it worked. Now my singers db is a different story. I don' know how to get that back.. unless... I get my backed up signers db (thank god I did that) and overwrite the one that's there now (which has NO singers lol) and then when I open up hoster it should try to rebuild it. We will see.

Please read post # 3 in this thread : http://forum.mtu.com/showthread.php?t=12777

Where it tells you how to replace the singers.mdb.