Looking for CDG drive that works like karaoke player

[SteveWalker]

I'm sure you have noticed that CD burners that are CDG compatible can play new clean CDG discs but NOT very well if they're cracked or scratched.

A karaoke player (especially new machines) are much more tolerant and capable of playing cracked or scratched CDG's with readable lyrics displays.

So can anyone point to a usb/firewire CDG burner or player that can handle cracks and scratches like the a karaoke machine?

I can use a separate karaoke machine for singers who bring cdg's and use the laptop for songs on the hard drive. The problem is that you have to switch between outputs to the display monitors and bring more equipment.

[ddouglass]

When you are importing whether temporary or permanent to a computer it is much more critical for the data to be correct. I am not sure I would say that Karaoke player drives are any more tolerant in that it really depends on where and how badly scratched and cracked the CD is. If there is a bad enough scratch or crack then the display will have so much trash on it to be unreadable. And that applies to both computer drives and player drives.
In fact I don't believe ther are any differences because they are the same drives. JVC used to make a 3 tray player with their own drives. Those same drives were used in computers. The only difference is that the ones in the player do not have the full cover case on them that the computer version has.
Hoster does employ the best available 4 pass error correction that can read through most scratches and minor cracks. When they first added this I helped beta test it, by taking a perfectly good (copy) of a CDG and put 7 or 8 radial scratches (worst case) across the disk. Every file on the disk imported near perfect. It takes longer toimport when Hoster has to use all 4 passes to read a sector but it did import ok. Microstudio also has this error correction.

[Roy Dennis]

I use a DVD-CDG player myself for singers own disks there are plenty on the market, mine is a Bluelasser DVG-888u Karaoke player. I use this one as it is only 1U in height and fits in my rack but there are plenty to choose from. I use a video-audio switcher to swich from computer to player.
An example switcher is shown here: http://www.acekaraoke.com/audio-2000...-selector.html
I don't personally use this one but it would do the job for you.
The one I use can be seen here but this is an English Site: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=32114

I have on order for myself a new mixer from Vocopro, Model KJ-7808RV as that has video fader mixer built in but as I am from England not many people sell it and those that do are out of stock, I have been waiting about 6 weeks now.
Yes it does mean carrying more equipment with you.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

When you are importing whether temporary or permanent to a computer it is much more critical for the data to be correct. I am not sure I would say that Karaoke player drives are any more tolerant in that it really depends on where and how badly scratched and cracked the CD is. If there is a bad enough scratch or crack then the display will have so much trash on it to be unreadable. And that applies to both computer drives and player drives.
In fact I don't believe ther are any differences because they are the same drives. JVC used to make a 3 tray player with their own drives. Those same drives were used in computers. The only difference is that the ones in the player do not have the full cover case on them that the computer version has.
Hoster does employ the best available 4 pass error correction that can read through most scratches and minor cracks. When they first added this I helped beta test it, by taking a perfectly good (copy) of a CDG and put 7 or 8 radial scratches (worst case) across the disk. Every file on the disk imported near perfect. It takes longer toimport when Hoster has to use all 4 passes to read a sector but it did import ok. Microstudio also has this error correction.

The only thing I can add to that Dale is what someone told me on here about three years ago when I was first importing all my disks to kma files.

" A karaoke player spins much slower than a computer disk player." At that time I was seeing speckles on the last several tracks of most of my new Chartbuster disks, after importing. It was explained that the last tracks were located towards the end of the disk and even see a greater linear speed there than they would towards the inside of the disk where the first tracks are located. These same disks would read fine with no speckles on every track on a karaoke player, however. Again, that was in the days of maybe version 2.xx or something like that before the days of super - error correction. None of this may apply now.