Hoster Bug

[dspins]

Not sure if this is correct forum for this, but here goes...

When attempting to import cd's, often the discID changes the numbers/letters to something I do not want. This is similar to that auto complete bug that happens when you try to manually add tracks and it changes them to what the program "thinks" it should read.

Example in this instance..

I drop in PHM0806 and hoster keeps changing this to PHM0806N. I label all country cd's from pop hits PHN and PHM for pop so there is no confusion, but hoster keeps trying to add this "N" after the disc ID I am entering when it is not even a country cd. The program refuses to let me continue with anything but what it wants in there. This has been happening on many cd's but this is just an example of the problem.

Bottom line, the autocomplete needs to be able to be entirely turned off in all aspects of hoster when the user wants it off. Normally I cut and paste most information on cd's and Hoster by changing what I want in there can be a real pain in the butt. The older versions of Hoster never had this issue so hopefully you can take some notes from the past and cure this bug. Thank you for your attention in this matter.

[ddouglass]

Are the song names/artist correct, then this is what it is supposed to do because it is correct in the Bucket database. If you change it to what you want and enter it, the information gets sent to MTU to be added to the bucket for future users. Now you have the same disk with two different diskids.
If you want to use your own IDs then create them under Custom Assembly or Unknown Brand. That way you won't mess up the database for the rest.
As far as the auto-complete for titles and artists if you keep typing it changes to whatever you type in. If it finds what you want before you type the whole thing doesn't that save you some time? I have never seen it force you to use what it thinks is right.

[mindonstrike]

You've got 2 ways to workaround this.

in 4.xx use the Pop Hits Monthly Pop brand (or Rock or whatever), If it doesn't exist you can create your own and then use whatever disc Id you want.
Or
Use 3.4 to import

Sam

[dspins]

Originally Posted by mindonstrike

create your own and then use whatever disc Id you want.

This is what I want to do. Add in the "correct discID", but hoster keeps changing it.

Originally Posted by ddouglass

Are the song names/artist correct, them this is what it is supposed to do because it is correct in the Bucket database. If you change it to what you want and enter it, the information gets sent to MTU to be added to the bucket for future users. Now you have the same disk with two different diskID's.

After I cut and paste the correct information for this disc from the company that made the CDG, Hoster then changes the ID to one that is incorrect. This is why I have and always double check then manually input this information when needed. If MTU is asking the end user to hope that whomever entered the information in first "got it right" and does not leave users like myself a manual way to correct errors, that is chaos in the making. I would rather have (2) choices on the list and pick the correct one, than only (1) that is incorrect.

Originally Posted by ddouglass

If you want to use your own IDs then create them under Custom Assembly or Unknown Brand. That way you won't mess up the database for the rest.

This is what I am trying to say, Many of the ID's are already wrong, and I want the correct ID's for my list. Hoster keeps changing the ID to something that is not correct.

I gave an example above...

I drop in PHM0806 and hoster keeps changing this to PHM0806N.

Furthermore, there is no PHM0806N. It does not even exist. The correct discID in this instance above would be PHM0806 and if you were trying to add the country disc then the correct ID is PHN0806 not PHM0806N. In either case, hoster is getting it wrong on both of these.

Originally Posted by ddouglass

As far as the auto-complete for titles and artists if you keep typing it changes to whatever you type in. If it finds what you want before you type the whole thing doesn't that save you some time? I have never seen it force you to use what it thinks is right.

It is far faster to cut and paste the "correct" information off the internet, than to fight with Hoster and get it to understand someone has put in the wrong data. (This is also why having left and right clicks backwards is an annoyance, but I guess I can deal with that) Often artists & song titles both appear in the song title area for example when you let hoster look for the information, or artists are listed by first name first instead of last names and these are just 2 examples. I will grant you this can (when the information is correct) speed things up some, but you still have to double check the info everytime because it is wrong so often, especially on newer cd's. For those that like to trust this feature (and are not concerned if the information is accurate or not) the option is there. But there should be a way to tell hoster, NO, I want my book to have "the correct discID" and turn this off.

Dale, you are very helpful to the people in the MTU community. Everyone is very greatful for what you do. You are a book of information when it comes to most aspects of Hoster. However, when it come to the little things and details you tend to blow them off or lack understanding about how attention to small detail is important. You seem to shoot down things before you fully understand them. This is frustrating for a user like myself who is trying to comminuicate with someone at MTU. I do appreciate you taking the time to read my post, but my intention was to get the attention of someone who works for MTU so that they might be able to fix some of the little bugs, unless you really do work for hoster, then I apologize.

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by mindonstrike
create your own and then use whatever disc Id you want.

This is what I want to do. Add in the "correct discID", but hoster keeps changing it.

What I meant is create your own brand such as "Pop Hits Monthly Pop". Doing this and you can have any discid you want.

Of course the easiest is to just use 3.4 that comes with 4.x to import and then you won't have any problems with limitations on discid.

Sam

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by dspins

This is what I want to do. Add in the "correct discID", but hoster keeps changing it.




After I cut and paste the correct information for this disc from the company that made the CDG, Hoster then changes the ID to one that is incorrect. This is why I have and always double check then manually input this information when needed. If MTU is asking the end user to hope that whomever entered the information in first "got it right" and does not leave users like myself a manual way to correct errors, that is chaos in the making. I would rather have (2) choices on the list and pick the correct one, than only (1) that is incorrect.



This is what I am trying to say, Many of the ID's are already wrong, and I want the correct ID's for my list. Hoster keeps changing the ID to something that is not correct.

I gave an example above...

I drop in PHM0806 and hoster keeps changing this to PHM0806N.

Furthermore, there is no PHM0806N. It does not even exist. The correct discID in this instance above would be PHM0806 and if you were trying to add the country disc then the correct ID is PHN0806 not PHM0806N. In either case, hoster is getting it wrong on both of these.



It is far faster to cut and paste the "correct" information off the internet, than to fight with Hoster and get it to understand someone has put in the wrong data. (This is also why having left and right clicks backwards is an annoyance, but I guess I can deal with that) Often artists & song titles both appear in the song title area for example when you let hoster look for the information, or artists are listed by first name first instead of last names and these are just 2 examples. I will grant you this can (when the information is correct) speed things up some, but you still have to double check the info everytime because it is wrong so often, especially on newer cd's. For those that like to trust this feature (and are not concerned if the information is accurate or not) the option is there. But there should be a way to tell hoster, NO, I want my book to have "the correct discID" and turn this off.

Dale, you are very helpful to the people in the MTU community. Everyone is very greatful for what you do. You are a book of information when it comes to most aspects of Hoster. However, when it come to the little things and details you tend to blow them off or lack understanding about how attention to small detail is important. You seem to shoot down things before you fully understand them. This is frustrating for a user like myself who is trying to comminuicate with someone at MTU. I do appreciate you taking the time to read my post, but my intention was to get the attention of someone who works for MTU so that they might be able to fix some of the little bugs, unless you really do work for hoster, then I apologize.

I'm sorry you feel that way. The biggest problem is most people in here expect you to solve there problem with limited information given.
You can (and I have) forced Hoster to use the "correct" DiskID. Wait until you have all the other information in place and then correct the DiskID.
MTU has very little time to peruse the forums right now, so we (Mindonstrike, Madjim, Marklwood, myself and others try to answer your questions). If we can't or it is something that needs to be fixed by MTU then we pass it on to them.
I see this as a problem yes but it can be forced to use the data you enter. I will pass this on to MTU so they can take a look at it and see what can be done to make it easier. The idea of adding the auto-complete was to try to make things easier for us, but apparently it is too persistent.

[dspins]

Thank you again for all information and assistance. It is always appreciated.

[ddouglass]

Your problem has been fixed in 4.07 just released. They have fixed the diskid problem that was changing it. Now if you keep typing in letters it will just list the most likely under it and allows you to type the whole thing in if you want to, making it easier to add new IDs.

[dspins]

Thanks for the heads up!