Hoster 4.2 and windows 7 disaster - FIXED in V4.22

[James w murray]

just wanted to post this out of frustration
i did my show last night and what a nightmare
lyrics completely out of sync except for the first song which was in perfect sync go figure
singers totally anger and most left my show
i have a new hp puter with plenty of power 2.63 processor 1024 dedicated ATi card ect ect ect
i do not understand why mtu can not get this corrected this lyric out of sync issues have been present in all versions after 3321 even using xp
i had to close and restart hoster every single time for each song and ironically the lyrics were in perfect sync and before u post it yes i tried the graphic adjuster even used the max setting and lyrics stayed an easy 1 sec behind still unless i closed and restarted hoster for every song
this seems to me to be saying its a program code issue but i have had enough of this and unfortunately am now in search of an alternative for hoster
i have 6 fellow kj friends who i reccomended hoster to who now want to beat me down because of these lyric sync issues and have now themselves began switching to other programs
They say change is a good thing
We shall see

Admin NOTE: Many users did NOT experienced the lyrics out of sync. We fixed a problem in Version 4.22 that has been there since 4.000. Now everyone should be in sync ALL the time.

[billyo]

have you tried changing the playback offset to -0.5 ?

[James w murray]

yes as i stated in my post i tried all setting even the max

[billyo]

i don't know what else to tell you, but most of the Hoster users that has this problem including myself was able to fixed it by just adjusting the plaback offset, in my case i adjusted it to -0.5,since you said that it's a new laptop have you done all the updates etc..and the changes needed ? ( had to asked, sorry)

[Beavis]

honestly, anyone who does this professionally, should be running windows xp pro !

[Deeter]

I think the OP has a good point. I, too never had any offset problems with 3321. Since then, every version has needed adjustment. If virtually everyone needs an offset adjustment, seems like that's a big clue that the problem is not hardware-specific.

[bryant]

Originally Posted by Beavis

honestly, anyone who does this professionally, should be running windows xp pro !

Ditto, Beav!!

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by Beavis

honestly, anyone who does this professionally, should be running windows xp pro !

Hey Bevis, I don't recall MTU advising everyone to use Hoster with XP PRO. Did I miss something?

[Ed Beram]

james wheat did you switch to? I have been using hoster for 6 years and have been reluctant to change never knowing if going to another brand will have problems of a different nature. i must say over these years that between my band ( i use tracks and comp keyboard around them ) giutar player alsoweaves in and out of the tracks. it has always been bitter sweet with hoster. on one hand it gets the job done but on the other the release of new versions has been to frequent for my taste . how bout not releasing anything till its perfected and all bugs removed. the use of this forum is nice but i have rarely gotten to talk to a tech. rather a momma - pappa kind of operation i have always thought but as i say i get through it. xp of course had fewer problems but how many years can hoster go on blaming vista and windows 7...find a way to make hoster work with these operating systems or don't waste cutomers time with all the bugs. just do it right the first time then release it. i have had my frustrations but remain loyal since i have made decent income from my music work and don't have to carry sheet music along for the vocals etc. i just wish they were a bigger more sophisticated company that's all. i'm now having problems with windows 7 which they gave thumbs up to last year and thats why i just spent a thousand bucks on a w7 laptop which is shutting down me and many other hoster customers. i truly hope that they soon get thier software to come up to speed with the times and lets quit blaming windows or vista.if your program doesn't work well with them don't sell hoster to us at all. is this too harsh a commentary on mtu?

[ThomasN]

I feel your pain guys. I have had to adjust my video offset frequently to keep lyrics in sync. Just when you think you got it, it goes off. It also appears to happen everytime I get up to do a song. I just can't look at the monitor anymore or I get screwed up.

I have had a few singers complain about it, but not as many as you might think. Maybe they don't care or don't notice it.

FYI, I am trying another hosting application and it is fairly new to the market. I used it last night and had 0% sync issues with any of the songs that I played on it. I can even set in and out points in realtime for the karaoke song. Same computer that I run Hoster on as well.

I use Hoster 99% of the time though because it is what I am use to and it does OK for me most of the time. Last weekend I started getting the Hoster stopped working messages. It continued this weekend also. I will try the new version that was pushed out this week.

I am not going to bash MTU, because I am a programmer too and know all to well what its like to have an application not run correctly all the time.

I will use (hosting application) what suits me and what makes my shows easier on me. If it's MTU that's fine if it isn't then that is fine also.

[Ed Beram]

no, ifeel your pain. this is getting old to many of us.i also don't want bash hoster just to be mean. i have said that it has worked well in past versions. i still think it is very important if for no other reaso as a long time customer to keep the issue published on this forum. i don't really believe the mtu folks are sitting back on some sunny beach in mexico and laughing at this series of problems but the point to be made is that when customers invest money in their product it should work right.. end of story. if it hasn't been run through the wringer a thousand times to make sure there are no problems, then DON'T RELEASE IT FOR SALE!!! get it right and let us praaise the product and recommend it to fellow KJ's not tell everyone we know to stay away from the product. i personally am not going to download the "bug fix" until there is sufficient kudos from a lot of hoster users.

[Musicman51]

I don't have the lyric sync issues you guys are having, and sorry to hear you are. But speaking of "upgrades". I am using hoster lite, and on the version i have, it has all the bells and whistles, that hoster has....silence feature, the player, everything hoster has, the whole nine yards. But mtu saw in their wisdom to take all the features away from us hoster lite guys. So actually an "upgrade" for me, would be a downgrade in features. So, it wasn't like that when i purchased hoster lite, only main difference was the songbook feature. I don't run two rigs, just a small one man week-end warrior operation. But i think they should have kept the hoster lite features, like it originally was.

[admin]

Originally Posted by ThomasN

I feel your pain guys. I have had to adjust my video offset frequently to keep lyrics in sync. Just when you think you got it, it goes off. It also appears to happen everytime I get up to do a song. I just can't look at the monitor anymore or I get screwed up.
I am not going to bash MTU, because I am a programmer too and know all to well what its like to have an application not run correctly all the time.

How is 4.22 working for you ThomasN?